Need drums for student

[Steve Vallee]

Hey guys. A student of mine will be looking for a drum set and has $800 to
spend on drums and cymbals. I haven't been in the market lately, so what's
the best bang for the buck these days on a student level kit, with hardware?
I remember Pacific CX used to be a great value. Heard anything about
African Rhythm Traders drums? http://www.rtdrumsets.com/html/b2drums.html .

Also send me an email if you have drums to sell.

Steve

[Chris Milillo]

Post by Steve Vallee
Hey guys. A student of mine will be looking for a drum set and has $800
to spend on drums and cymbals. I haven't been in the market lately, so
what's the best bang for the buck these days on a student level kit, with
hardware? I remember Pacific CX used to be a great value. Heard anything
about African Rhythm Traders drums?
http://www.rtdrumsets.com/html/b2drums.html .
Also send me an email if you have drums to sell.
Steve

Used is the way to go. Check eBay. Even if you're not comfortable doing
business on eBay, it can give you a good idea of what you can get for the
money. With a budget of $800, your student can get a decent kit with low end
cymbals, especially if the kit is close enough where you can arrange local
pickup.

Actually, last year, I got steal of an eBay deal on a mint 4pc Starclassic
Maple kit with hardware for $720 and was able to pick it up in Northern NJ
(about 1 hr drive).

CM

[gpsman]

Hey guys.  A student of mine will be looking for a drum set and has $800 to
spend on drums and cymbals.

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[Musicman59]

Hey guys.  A student of mine will be looking for a drum set and has $800 to
spend on drums and cymbals.  I haven't been in the market lately, so what's
the best bang for the buck these days on a student level kit, with hardware?
I remember Pacific CX used to be a great value.  Heard anything about
African Rhythm Traders drums?  http://www.rtdrumsets.com/html/b2drums.html.
Also send me an email if you have drums to sell.
Steve

I bought a Gretsch Catalina jazz kit for $800 at the Guitar Center. -
works fine

[Steve Turner]

Post by Musicman59

Post by Steve Vallee
Hey guys. A student of mine will be looking for a drum set and has $800 to
spend on drums and cymbals. I haven't been in the market lately, so what's
the best bang for the buck these days on a student level kit, with hardware?
I remember Pacific CX used to be a great value. Heard anything about
African Rhythm Traders drums? http://www.rtdrumsets.com/html/b2drums.html.
Also send me an email if you have drums to sell.
Steve

I bought a Gretsch Catalina jazz kit for $800 at the Guitar Center. -
works fine

Have you guys seen the new shell packs that Ludwig is selling? They have two different
"classic" 3-ply configurations w/reinforcing rings; maple/poplar/maple and
cherry/gum/cherry. They look pretty sweet, and priced competitively too.

[Tom Joyce]

Woodwind and Brasswind has some nice prices on those Catalina kits. This
one looks like a sweet deal:
http://www.wwbw.com/Gretsch-Drums-Catalina-Maple-Fusion-Drum-Shell-Pack-with-Free-16--Floor-Tom-483246-i1399500.wwbw
You'd still have to buy cymbals.
tom J.

Post by Steve Turner

Post by Musicman59

Post by Steve Vallee
Hey guys. A student of mine will be looking for a drum set and has $800 to
spend on drums and cymbals. I haven't been in the market lately, so what's
the best bang for the buck these days on a student level kit, with hardware?
I remember Pacific CX used to be a great value. Heard anything about
African Rhythm Traders drums?
http://www.rtdrumsets.com/html/b2drums.html.
Also send me an email if you have drums to sell.
Steve

I bought a Gretsch Catalina jazz kit for $800 at the Guitar Center. -
works fine

Have you guys seen the new shell packs that Ludwig is selling? They have
two different "classic" 3-ply configurations w/reinforcing rings;
maple/poplar/maple and cherry/gum/cherry. They look pretty sweet, and
priced competitively too.
--
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[Steve Turner]

Post by Tom Joyce
Woodwind and Brasswind has some nice prices on those Catalina kits.
http://www.wwbw.com/Gretsch-Drums-Catalina-Maple-Fusion-Drum-Shell-Pack-with-Free-16--Floor-Tom-483246-i1399500.wwbw
You'd still have to buy cymbals.
tom J.

Yeah, I could see myself grabbing that for a good player set (so I could
leave my mid-eighties Jasper USA maples at home!). Those are the exact
sizes I'd be looking for in a new set.

I love Gretsch, but I've always had a sweet tooth for the old 3-ply
Ludwigs, and those new cherry/gum/cherry shells have got my curiosity
piqued...

[JWald]

I'm a bit confused. You seem to be in love with your Jasper USA's, and I too
have a kit I think are tits as well. So why do you not want to play the kit
you love on a gig? I have trouble with the I don't want to trash 'em thing.
I don't want to trash mine either, but if you take care all should be good.
Every time I take a *lesser* kit to a gig I always wish I'd taken *The* kit
instead.
--
J Wald

"You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think.... "

Post by Steve Turner

Post by Tom Joyce
Woodwind and Brasswind has some nice prices on those Catalina kits. This
http://www.wwbw.com/Gretsch-Drums-Catalina-Maple-Fusion-Drum-Shell-Pack-with-Free-16--Floor-Tom-483246-i1399500.wwbw
You'd still have to buy cymbals.
tom J.

Yeah, I could see myself grabbing that for a good player set (so I could
leave my mid-eighties Jasper USA maples at home!). Those are the exact
sizes I'd be looking for in a new set.
I love Gretsch, but I've always had a sweet tooth for the old 3-ply
Ludwigs, and those new cherry/gum/cherry shells have got my curiosity
piqued...
--
See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad!
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/

[Steve Turner]

Post by JWald
I'm a bit confused. You seem to be in love with your Jasper USA's, and I too
have a kit I think are tits as well. So why do you not want to play the kit
you love on a gig? I have trouble with the I don't want to trash 'em thing.
I don't want to trash mine either, but if you take care all should be good.
Every time I take a *lesser* kit to a gig I always wish I'd taken *The* kit
instead.

I've been passively keeping my eye out for a second kit for a long time
because our band practices every week and I always leave my drums at our
practice location (I don't want to lug them back and forth if I don't
have to!). However, that leaves me without a kit at home on which to
practice. Truthfully, I'm not sure which kit I'd leave at home and
which I'd take out on gigs; I'd probably rotate them out just to keep it
fresh. And I probably wouldn't buy a kit that didn't sound damn near as
good (or better!) than the ole' Gretsch. I've heard great things about
the Catalinas, and I'm guessing the Ludwigs sound great as well, but
once you get above a certain level of quality I don't think there's
enough of a sound difference for the point you raised to be a
significant issue.

[Pete Pemberton]

On 2009-07-31 23:35:12 -0400, Steve Turner

Post by Steve Turner

Post by JWald
I'm a bit confused. You seem to be in love with your Jasper USA's, and
I too have a kit I think are tits as well. So why do you not want to
play the kit you love on a gig? I have trouble with the I don't want to
trash 'em thing. I don't want to trash mine either, but if you take
care all should be good. Every time I take a *lesser* kit to a gig I
always wish I'd taken *The* kit instead.

I've been passively keeping my eye out for a second kit for a long time
because our band practices every week and I always leave my drums at
our practice location (I don't want to lug them back and forth if I
don't have to!). However, that leaves me without a kit at home on
which to practice. Truthfully, I'm not sure which kit I'd leave at
home and which I'd take out on gigs; I'd probably rotate them out just
to keep it fresh. And I probably wouldn't buy a kit that didn't sound
damn near as good (or better!) than the ole' Gretsch. I've heard great
things about the Catalinas, and I'm guessing the Ludwigs sound great as
well, but once you get above a certain level of quality I don't think
there's enough of a sound difference for the point you raised to be a
significant issue.

I'll say it again, take a serious look at the ddrum dominion ash
series. For the money, it sounds as good as the bubinga drums that TAMA
and others are selling (ddrum too), and as good as my old stopsign
Gretsches.

PP

[Frisco]

Post by Steve Turner

Post by JWald
I'm a bit confused. You seem to be in love with your Jasper USA's, and I too
have a kit I think are tits as well. So why do you not want to play the kit
you love on a gig? I have trouble with the I don't want to trash 'em thing.
I don't want to trash mine either, but if you take care all should be good.
Every time I take a *lesser* kit to a gig I always wish I'd taken *The* kit
instead.

I've been passively keeping my eye out for a second kit for a long time
because our band practices every week and I always leave my drums at our
practice location (I don't want to lug them back and forth if I don't
have to!).  However, that leaves me without a kit at home on which to
practice.  Truthfully, I'm not sure which kit I'd leave at home and
which I'd take out on gigs; I'd probably rotate them out just to keep it
fresh.  And I probably wouldn't buy a kit that didn't sound damn near as
good (or better!) than the ole' Gretsch.  I've heard great things about
the Catalinas, and I'm guessing the Ludwigs sound great as well, but
once you get above a certain level of quality I don't think there's
enough of a sound difference for the point you raised to be a
significant issue.
--
"Our beer goes through thousands of quality Czechs every day."
(From a Shiner Bock billboard I saw in Austin some years ago)
To reply, eat the taco.http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/

Every gigging drummer needs at least two, potentially three kits. One
for practice space, one for home practice, and one packed and ready
sitting by-the-door for gigs. First two can be the same kit if you
live where your band rehearses. I picked up a low-end set of Sonor
Force 3001's for $200 and they sound great for a band rehearsal-space
kit. My Yamaha Beech Customs are my gigging kit and are my
favorites, I don't have any second thoughts about dragging them out
in public - but always in bags and with care. My drum-playing wife's
Mapex Saturns are my home practice/recording kit. I also have an
older set of Sonor Force 3000's that sound great but are my beater kit
for those really nasty gigs where there's potential for flying beer-
bottles and projectile puking. ;-)

Paul

[Steve Turner]

Post by Frisco
Every gigging drummer needs at least two, potentially three kits. One
for practice space, one for home practice, and one packed and ready
sitting by-the-door for gigs. First two can be the same kit if you
live where your band rehearses.

'twould be nice, but I always seem to have some other need for my
spending money that preempts that second or third kit. I *wish* our
practice space was such that I could leave my practice kit set up, but
alas I have to set it up and break it back down every week, and that
gets pretty old. As such, I don't think I could justify a third kit
(still workin' on the second!); I might as well take the practice kit to
the gigs since it's already packed up and ready to go.

Post by Frisco
I also have an
older set of Sonor Force 3000's that sound great but are my beater kit
for those really nasty gigs where there's potential for flying beer-
bottles and projectile puking. ;-)

Exactly the type of gigs that make me want to leave my Gretsch Jasper
maples at home!

[Frisco]

That's exactly how I plan my drum kit logistics... for the least
amount of time spent breaking them down and packing them up, and vice
versa. I would hang myself if I had one kit that traveled and had to
be set-up / tore down for rehearsals or home practice.

Ultimately you'll find a way to only do that packing chore when the
drums hit the stage or leave it. I love those gigs that last for days/
weeks at a time! Me lazy mon

Paul

Post by Steve Turner
I might as well take the practice kit to
the gigs since it's already packed up and ready to go.

Every gigging drummer needs at least two, potentially three kits.  One
for practice space, one for home practice, and one packed and ready
sitting by-the-door for gigs.  First two can be the same kit if you
live where your band rehearses.

'twould be nice, but I always seem to have some other need for my
spending money that preempts that second or third kit.  I *wish* our
practice space was such that I could leave my practice kit set up, but
alas I have to set it up and break it back down every week, and that
gets pretty old.  As such, I don't think I could justify a third kit
(still workin' on the second!); I might as well take the practice kit to
the gigs since it's already packed up and ready to go.

I also have an
older set of Sonor Force 3000's that sound great but are my beater kit
for those really nasty gigs where there's potential for flying beer-
bottles and projectile puking.  ;-)

Exactly the type of gigs that make me want to leave my Gretsch Jasper
maples at home!
--
"Even if your wife is happy but you're unhappy, you're still happier
than you'd be if you were happy and your wife was unhappy." - Red Green
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[Sam S]

"Frisco" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:be999755-7c38-42b1-93b1-***@e18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 31, 11:35 pm, Steve Turner <***@swtacobell.net.invalid>
wrote:

Every gigging drummer needs at least two, potentially three kits. One
for practice space, one for home practice, and one packed and ready
sitting by-the-door for gigs. First two can be the same kit if you
live where your band rehearses. I picked up a low-end set of Sonor
Force 3001's for $200 and they sound great for a band rehearsal-space
kit. My Yamaha Beech Customs are my gigging kit and are my
favorites, I don't have any second thoughts about dragging them out
in public - but always in bags and with care. My drum-playing wife's
Mapex Saturns are my home practice/recording kit. I also have an
older set of Sonor Force 3000's that sound great but are my beater kit
for those really nasty gigs where there's potential for flying beer-
bottles and projectile puking. ;-)

My gig set sometimes spends months at a time in either the vehicle or at a
gig. It rarely gets unpacked except at the gig and always sleeps in the SUV
in the garage or at a hotel. I even change out heads at the gigs. I have a
rehearsal set, the gig set and then three others that I really can't explain
to my wife about. "Honey, the drum fairy visited again!"

Sam S.