double bounce on kick drum pedal

[Chris23]

HI,

I've been playing a long time, but recently decided to get serious
about my hands (singles and doubles mostly) and bass drum pedal
technique. I have watched numerous videos on how to do a controlled
double bounce on the bass drum, but I'm falling short. My heel is up,
not down. I know there are variants to these two.

I can sort of get it, anticipating ONE (ba-BAH!) - playing two
consecutive kicks with the accent on the second onen- straight and
swung. And two 32nd bass hits before a SNARE backbeat such as on
Heart's "Barracuda". The first one baffles me. And I never seem to
get where I want be. How much time and what type of effort do I have
to put into this, would you say, to get it right? It either doesn't
feel natural, or happens a little late. Is a slow approach the right
way? I mostly try to play along in time.

Thanks for the advice.

Chris

[Steve Turner]

Post by Chris23
HI,
I've been playing a long time, but recently decided to get serious
about my hands (singles and doubles mostly) and bass drum pedal
technique. I have watched numerous videos on how to do a controlled
double bounce on the bass drum, but I'm falling short. My heel is up,
not down. I know there are variants to these two.
I can sort of get it, anticipating ONE (ba-BAH!) - playing two
consecutive kicks with the accent on the second onen- straight and
swung. And two 32nd bass hits before a SNARE backbeat such as on
Heart's "Barracuda". The first one baffles me. And I never seem to
get where I want be. How much time and what type of effort do I have
to put into this, would you say, to get it right? It either doesn't
feel natural, or happens a little late. Is a slow approach the right
way? I mostly try to play along in time.
Thanks for the advice.
Chris

Without thinking too much about it (or actually trying it on the kit) I wanna
say that (for me) playing the first variation where the accent is on the second
note would be most easily played heel down...

[Pete Pemberton]

Post by Chris23
HI,
I've been playing a long time, but recently decided to get serious
about my hands (singles and doubles mostly) and bass drum pedal
technique. I have watched numerous videos on how to do a controlled
double bounce on the bass drum, but I'm falling short. My heel is up,
not down. I know there are variants to these two.
I can sort of get it, anticipating ONE (ba-BAH!) - playing two
consecutive kicks with the accent on the second onen- straight and
swung. And two 32nd bass hits before a SNARE backbeat such as on
Heart's "Barracuda". The first one baffles me. And I never seem to
get where I want be. How much time and what type of effort do I have
to put into this, would you say, to get it right? It either doesn't
feel natural, or happens a little late. Is a slow approach the right
way? I mostly try to play along in time.
Thanks for the advice.
Chris

To get the timing right for the 32nds before the snare hit, practice
single 16th's on the 'a'. The Barracuda riffs are all 16ths, IIRC, not
32nds anyway...

If you play heel up the 'swivel technique' will be your easiest way to
get the fast doubles.

There are some good videos of this on youtube.

PP

[Chris23]

Post by Pete Pemberton

Post by Chris23
HI,
I've been playing a long time, but recently decided to get serious
about my hands (singles and doubles mostly) and bass drum pedal
technique.  I have watched numerous videos on how to do a controlled
double bounce on the bass drum, but I'm falling short. My heel is up,
not down.  I know there are variants to these two.
I can sort of get it, anticipating ONE (ba-BAH!) - playing two
consecutive kicks with the accent on the second onen- straight and
swung.   And two 32nd bass hits before a SNARE backbeat such as on
Heart's "Barracuda".  The first one baffles me.  And I never seem to
get where I want be.  How much time and what type of effort do I have
to put into this, would you say, to get it right?  It either doesn't
feel natural, or happens a little late.  Is a slow approach the right
way?  I mostly try to play along in time.
Thanks for the advice.
Chris

To get the timing right for the 32nds before the snare hit, practice
single 16th's on the 'a'.  The Barracuda riffs are all 16ths, IIRC, not
32nds anyway...
If you play heel up the 'swivel technique' will be your easiest way to
get the fast doubles.
There are some good videos of this on youtube.
PP

Would you suggest I try to swivel in sneakers? Or try a shoe with a
smoother sole?