Videoing drums from above.

Post by cat
What am I doing wrong, and how does anyone else achieve this feat?

Live somewhere with a high ceiling?

L

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cat

2009-05-05 12:36:07 UTC

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Post by cat
What am I doing wrong, and how does anyone else achieve this feat?

Live somewhere with a high ceiling?

I do, it's camera elevation that's the problem.

Maarten H

2009-05-04 21:37:57 UTC

I'm sure I'm being a bit docile, but I can't work out a neat method and I
can't find any instructions anywhere that explain how other people achieve
it.
Nice tidy video shot from directly above the drum kit.
To get my kit in frame with my camcorder zoomed fully out I have to be up
near the ceiling.
What am I doing wrong, and how does anyone else achieve this feat?
Cheers,
Cat.

Ever considered a large mirror, in an angle overhead?
Seen one in a tv show once, years ago. Gotta mirror the recorded image too,
though.

Good luck,
Maarten

-MIKE-

2009-05-04 22:43:23 UTC

Post by cat
Nice tidy video shot from directly above the drum kit.
To get my kit in frame with my camcorder zoomed fully out I have to be
up near the ceiling.
What am I doing wrong, and how does anyone else achieve this feat?

It's just a limitation with the camera lens.
You're not going to get a very wide angle lens with a consumer camera.

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cat

2009-05-05 12:38:20 UTC

It's just a limitation with the camera lens.
You're not going to get a very wide angle lens with a consumer camera.

Are all the kids on youtube seriously using expensive professional cameras?

I'm interested in the specifics of the ways other people have achieved
it, more than analysing the already evident problems with my (lack of) gear.

Cheers.

-MIKE-

2009-05-05 15:19:26 UTC

Post by cat

Post by cat
Nice tidy video shot from directly above the drum kit.
To get my kit in frame with my camcorder zoomed fully out I have to
be up near the ceiling.
What am I doing wrong, and how does anyone else achieve this feat?

It's just a limitation with the camera lens.
You're not going to get a very wide angle lens with a consumer camera.

Are all the kids on youtube seriously using expensive professional cameras?
I'm interested in the specifics of the ways other people have achieved
it, more than analysing the already evident problems with my (lack of) gear.
Cheers.

Hey smart ass, don't come in here asking a stupid question and expect to
get treated differently.

Maybe all the kids on youtube have higher ceilings, Einstein.

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-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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Steve Turner

2009-05-05 17:39:26 UTC

Post by cat

Post by cat
Nice tidy video shot from directly above the drum kit.
To get my kit in frame with my camcorder zoomed fully out I have to
be up near the ceiling.
What am I doing wrong, and how does anyone else achieve this feat?

It's just a limitation with the camera lens.
You're not going to get a very wide angle lens with a consumer camera.

Are all the kids on youtube seriously using expensive professional cameras?
I'm interested in the specifics of the ways other people have achieved
it, more than analysing the already evident problems with my (lack of) gear.
Cheers.

Hey smart ass, don't come in here asking a stupid question and expect to
get treated differently.
Maybe all the kids on youtube have higher ceilings, Einstein.

Lol! Gee Mike, you're getting kinda grouchy in your old age. :-)

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cat

2009-05-05 18:17:11 UTC

Post by Steve Turner

Post by cat
Are all the kids on youtube seriously using expensive professional cameras?
I'm interested in the specifics of the ways other people have
achieved it, more than analysing the already evident problems with my
(lack of) gear.
Cheers.

Hey smart ass, don't come in here asking a stupid question and expect
to get treated differently.
Maybe all the kids on youtube have higher ceilings, Einstein.

Lol! Gee Mike, you're getting kinda grouchy in your old age. :-)

It wasn't actually supposed to be read in any way smart assed.
I know this group is pretty rough and tumble, but whatever.

I'm not sure how it's a particularly stupid question considering that
I've done a lot of reading and can't find any answers to my particular
problem. I figured asking a group of people who would likely have
experience of what I'm undertaking.

As I've said, the height of the ceiling isn't a problem. It's the
supporting of the camera that's concerning me.

Last video shoot I did wound up with the cameraman (using a serious
canon camera with a range of lenses available) up a stepladder balancing
with two people supporting him, possibly they were 'doing it wrong'.

However, loads of people are achieving what I want and the results are
on youtube. I guess I should run the gamut of posting comments on
videos. I assume my trolling kind would be amongst friends there.

Thanks for the structural advise about my building though :oP

Cat.

-MIKE-

2009-05-05 20:08:25 UTC

Post by cat
It wasn't actually supposed to be read in any way smart assed.
I know this group is pretty rough and tumble, but whatever.

Ok, you caught me before I was caffeinated. Sorry. :-)

Post by cat
As I've said, the height of the ceiling isn't a problem. It's the
supporting of the camera that's concerning me.

This wasn't in any way clear from your original post.

Post by cat
Last video shoot I did wound up with the cameraman (using a serious
canon camera with a range of lenses available) up a stepladder balancing
with two people supporting him, possibly they were 'doing it wrong'.

I actually use a boom cymbal stand for a camera mount. That way, it can
be put just about anywhere, cantilevering over anything, because it is
far lighter than a cymbal.

The threads on a standard camcorder tripod mount are 1/4-20, which is a
very common thread size.

Here's something I rigged up...
http://www.mikedrums.com/camcordermount/

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cat

2009-05-06 13:30:35 UTC

Post by cat
It wasn't actually supposed to be read in any way smart assed.
I know this group is pretty rough and tumble, but whatever.

Ok, you caught me before I was caffeinated. Sorry. :-)

I'll have to buy you a coffee if I ever happen to meet you!

Post by cat
As I've said, the height of the ceiling isn't a problem. It's the
supporting of the camera that's concerning me.

This wasn't in any way clear from your original post.

I knew what I meant at the time of posting, but having re-read, you're
quite right :oP

Post by -MIKE-
I actually use a boom cymbal stand for a camera mount. That way, it can
be put just about anywhere, cantilevering over anything, because it is
far lighter than a cymbal.
The threads on a standard camcorder tripod mount are 1/4-20, which is a
very common thread size.
Here's something I rigged up...
http://www.mikedrums.com/camcordermount/

If it makes you feel better, after your mentioning a cymbal stand, I
feel somewhat foolish. I'd tried microphone stands with no success!

I've stuck a butterfly nut upside down on one of my spare stands and
have made a video that's acceptable to me for now and the premise seems
to be easily extendable (with more bits of metal) to what I plan for the
future.

Thanks for the info and the link.

Regards,
Cat.

Sam S

2009-05-06 17:33:28 UTC

Post by -MIKE-
Here's something I rigged up...
http://www.mikedrums.com/camcordermount/

Interesting use of a Vic Firth 8D. It doesn't look used.

:^)
Sam S.

-MIKE-

2009-05-06 18:12:48 UTC

Post by -MIKE-
Here's something I rigged up...
http://www.mikedrums.com/camcordermount/

Interesting use of a Vic Firth 8D. It doesn't look used.
:^)
Sam S.

The business end was plenty beat up, Sam. :-)

I use old drumsticks for a lot of woodworking stuff.
They make great hardwood dowels for joinery and screw hole plugs.

They also work great as wall pegs for holding cables and stuff.

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Sam S

2009-05-07 02:16:29 UTC

Post by -MIKE-
Here's something I rigged up...
http://www.mikedrums.com/camcordermount/

Interesting use of a Vic Firth 8D. It doesn't look used.
:^)
Sam S.

The business end was plenty beat up, Sam. :-)
I use old drumsticks for a lot of woodworking stuff.
They make great hardwood dowels for joinery and screw hole plugs.
They also work great as wall pegs for holding cables and stuff.

Do they burn well? I was thinking of trying them out in my fire pit.

Sam S.

-MIKE-

2009-05-07 02:56:54 UTC

Post by -MIKE-
I use old drumsticks for a lot of woodworking stuff.
They make great hardwood dowels for joinery and screw hole plugs.
They also work great as wall pegs for holding cables and stuff.

Do they burn well? I was thinking of trying them out in my fire pit.
Sam S.

Hickory? You kiddin? They burn well and smell great.

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http://mikedrums.com
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Steve Turner

2009-05-07 04:06:17 UTC

Post by -MIKE-
I use old drumsticks for a lot of woodworking stuff.
They make great hardwood dowels for joinery and screw hole plugs.
They also work great as wall pegs for holding cables and stuff.

Do they burn well? I was thinking of trying them out in my fire pit.
Sam S.

Hickory? You kiddin? They burn well and smell great.

Burn 'em in the barbecue. Hickory or Maple, either one; makes a great
tasting burger.

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Sam S

2009-05-07 15:40:07 UTC

Post by Steve Turner

Post by -MIKE-
I use old drumsticks for a lot of woodworking stuff.
They make great hardwood dowels for joinery and screw hole plugs.
They also work great as wall pegs for holding cables and stuff.

Do they burn well? I was thinking of trying them out in my fire pit.
Sam S.

Hickory? You kiddin? They burn well and smell great.

Burn 'em in the barbecue. Hickory or Maple, either one; makes a great
tasting burger.

duh. That makes sense. Luckily I don't use nylon tips.

Sam S.

Zomoniac

2009-05-05 19:11:47 UTC