Help with drum mic gating

[spider]

I am a drummer that sings backgroup vocals. The lead singer keeps
hearing my drums through his monitor and I am looking for advice on
how to gate my mic to keep it from picking up my drums. I use a
wireless headset and an acoustic drumset.

Thanks!

[-MIKE-]

Post by spider
I am a drummer that sings backgroup vocals. The lead singer keeps
hearing my drums through his monitor and I am looking for advice on
how to gate my mic to keep it from picking up my drums. I use a
wireless headset and an acoustic drumset.
Thanks!

I think the easier solution is for him to not have any of your vox in
his monitor.

If you use a gate, he'll get a blast of drums, every time you sing....
assuming you can even get the gate set to trigger on for your voice and
stay off for the drums.

[JWald]

Mike is right that taking your vocal out of the monitor up front should
help solve the problem. Are you sure that the drums are not bleeding through
the singers mic as well?
--
J Wald

"You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think.... "

Post by spider
I am a drummer that sings backgroup vocals. The lead singer keeps
hearing my drums through his monitor and I am looking for advice on
how to gate my mic to keep it from picking up my drums. I use a
wireless headset and an acoustic drumset.
Thanks!

[Steve Turner]

Post by spider
I am a drummer that sings backgroup vocals. The lead singer keeps
hearing my drums through his monitor and I am looking for advice on
how to gate my mic to keep it from picking up my drums. I use a
wireless headset and an acoustic drumset.
Thanks!

You could tell your pansy singer to quit bitching and to just deal with
it. What if your vocal mic is turned completely off; does he have any
drums at all in his monitor mix?

[Muso]

Post by Steve Turner

Post by spider
I am a drummer that sings backgroup vocals. The lead singer keeps
hearing my drums through his monitor and I am looking for advice on
how to gate my mic to keep it from picking up my drums. I use a
wireless headset and an acoustic drumset.
Thanks!

You could tell your pansy singer to quit bitching and to just deal with
it.  What if your vocal mic is turned completely off; does he have any
drums at all in his monitor mix?
--
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Yeah, send your singer to Austin, and Steve and Mike will rough him up
a bit. Just kidding. Spider, you need to take over the lead vocals
yourself. Tell your lead singer that he can sing backup for you, but
only if he learns how to play the triangle at the same time. That
should put some perspective on the problem.

[Todd H]

Post by spider
I am a drummer that sings backgroup vocals. The lead singer keeps
hearing my drums through his monitor and I am looking for advice on
how to gate my mic to keep it from picking up my drums. I use a
wireless headset and an acoustic drumset.

Rolls MS111 - Mic Switch On/Off
http://www.fullcompass.com/product/360420.html

[Todd H]

Post by Todd H

Post by spider
I am a drummer that sings backgroup vocals. The lead singer keeps
hearing my drums through his monitor and I am looking for advice on
how to gate my mic to keep it from picking up my drums. I use a
wireless headset and an acoustic drumset.

Rolls MS111 - Mic Switch On/Off
http://www.fullcompass.com/product/360420.html

or... if you want something automatic, you want a noise gate. But be
advised that you'll have to play with the thresholds, and may have to
deal with the realities that singing quiet and the SPL of a cymbal
nearby are probably pretty close in intensity. If you set threshold
too low, singer may be annoyed with gate opening during cymbal
crashes, set it too high, gate may not open when you're singing
quieter, or may have an exagerated delay in opening. I suspect you'll
get it figured out and it'll work great though. Bonus: also
increases gain before feedback on stage.

3 more channels than ya need, but price is right:

Behringer XR4400 Multigate Pro
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHXR4400

[Bill Coffin]

A simple experiment: turn off your vocal mic and see if the singer still
hears your drums in the monitor. My bet is that he will. Drums bleed
through every mike on stage, and my experience is that there's more
bleed-through in the up-front mics than than via my vocal mic. (Like
you, I sing backups, plus an occasional lead.)

-Bill

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Post by spider
I am a drummer that sings backgroup vocals. The lead singer keeps
hearing my drums through his monitor and I am looking for advice on
how to gate my mic to keep it from picking up my drums. I use a
wireless headset and an acoustic drumset.
Thanks!

[2sticks]

Post by spider
I am a drummer that sings backgroup vocals. The lead singer keeps
hearing my drums through his monitor and I am looking for advice on
how to gate my mic to keep it from picking up my drums. I use a
wireless headset and an acoustic drumset.
Thanks!

I found the best solution to my drums bleeding through my headset mic
(it wasn't just our lead singer that had the issue, it was apparent in
our mix) was to drop the headset mic and use a plain ol' boom over my
left shoulder. Easy to adjust to and the microphone never moves around
the drum set...