L-rods don't seem to give you as much control with tom placement

[Chris23]

I'm still looking to remount my toms with 7/8" tubes. I'm considering
two l-rods vs. two tube arms. Once your drums ar in place on the l-
rods - you can't move toward you or away from you. Isn't this a
problem for some players?

Chris

[-MIKE-]

Post by Chris23
I'm still looking to remount my toms with 7/8" tubes. I'm considering
two l-rods vs. two tube arms. Once your drums ar in place on the l-
rods - you can't move toward you or away from you. Isn't this a
problem for some players?
Chris

As Chris and I discussed before, it depends on your priorities.
If you don't mind moving your entire stand (and everything else on it)
to fine tune the placement of your tom, it's no big deal to use L-rods.
I wouldn't recommend this or a rack.

If you REALLY like the convenience (and it is a big convenience) of
being able to lift your toms off the mount, without having to move the
stand or another drum, L-Rods are the way to go.

[Chris23]

Post by -MIKE-

I'm still looking to remount my toms with 7/8" tubes.  I'm considering
two l-rods vs. two tube arms.  Once your drums ar in place on the l-
rods - you can't move toward you or away from you.  Isn't this a
problem for some players?
Chris

As Chris and I discussed before, it depends on your priorities.
If you don't mind moving your entire stand (and everything else on it)
to fine tune the placement of your tom, it's no big deal to use L-rods.
I wouldn't recommend this or a rack.
If you REALLY like the convenience (and it is a big convenience) of
being able to lift your toms off the mount, without having to move the
stand or another drum, L-Rods are the way to go.
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In this particular scenario, the toms are mounted directly to the bass
drum on separate tubes. So it seems like (II never had this hardware
before) they are fixed on their respectivemounts, unable to go back or
forth on the z-axis, or any other axis for that matter. My experience
is one right angle adjustable tom arm tube and tom on a BD mount. The
positioning is fully variable.

Chris

[-MIKE-]

Post by Chris23
In this particular scenario, the toms are mounted directly to the bass
drum on separate tubes. So it seems like (II never had this hardware
before) they are fixed on their respectivemounts, unable to go back or
forth on the z-axis, or any other axis for that matter. My experience
is one right angle adjustable tom arm tube and tom on a BD mount. The
positioning is fully variable.
Chris

I would hate to have L-rods on a bass drum mount, unless the bass drum
mount could slide forward and back. Bass drum mounts are never close
enough for me. I like the pedal to be a little farther forward than
most. And that puts the toms too far away on most kits, unless you have
plenty of horizontal tube to work with.

[Steve Turner]

Post by -MIKE-

Post by Chris23
In this particular scenario, the toms are mounted directly to the bass
drum on separate tubes. So it seems like (II never had this hardware
before) they are fixed on their respectivemounts, unable to go back or
forth on the z-axis, or any other axis for that matter. My experience
is one right angle adjustable tom arm tube and tom on a BD mount. The
positioning is fully variable.
Chris

I would hate to have L-rods on a bass drum mount, unless the bass drum
mount could slide forward and back. Bass drum mounts are never close
enough for me. I like the pedal to be a little farther forward than
most. And that puts the toms too far away on most kits, unless you have
plenty of horizontal tube to work with.

I also like my kick pedal to be a bit farther away than most people (and my
hi-hat too); I don't like my knees to be directly above my ankles, and you're
right; many kick-mounted tom mounts don't work well for that scenario. It
doesn't bother me though because I really don't care for the "two toms mounted
on the kick" setup, and I haven't run a kit that way in decades. I still like
having two rack toms, but I've gotta have them directly in front of me, on a
stand to the left of the kick drum, with the snare tucked up between them.
Some (very dated) pictures of my rig are here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/sets/72157603970680808/

My setup is still very similar to that, but I'm using bigger toms now
(10,12,14,16 instead of 8,10,12,14). Another reason I like this kind of setup
is that I prefer having the main ride cymbal in close proximity (sorta Buddy
Rich style), and the "two toms on the kick" setup really interferes with that.

[-MIKE-]

Post by Steve Turner
I also like my kick pedal to be a bit farther away than most people (and
my hi-hat too); I don't like my knees to be directly above my ankles,
and you're right; many kick-mounted tom mounts don't work well for that
scenario. It doesn't bother me though because I really don't care for
the "two toms mounted on the kick" setup, and I haven't run a kit that
way in decades. I still like having two rack toms, but I've gotta have
them directly in front of me, on a stand to the left of the kick drum,
with the snare tucked up between them. Some (very dated) pictures of my

That's just what I like.
Remind me to call you for backline, when we get back to Austin. :-)

[Steve Turner]

Post by -MIKE-

Post by Steve Turner
I also like my kick pedal to be a bit farther away than most people (and
my hi-hat too); I don't like my knees to be directly above my ankles,
and you're right; many kick-mounted tom mounts don't work well for that
scenario. It doesn't bother me though because I really don't care for
the "two toms mounted on the kick" setup, and I haven't run a kit that
way in decades. I still like having two rack toms, but I've gotta have
them directly in front of me, on a stand to the left of the kick drum,
with the snare tucked up between them. Some (very dated) pictures of my

That's just what I like.
Remind me to call you for backline, when we get back to Austin. :-)

You've got it... if you can deal with the fact that my toms don't have
isolation mounts. :-)

[Zomoniac]

Post by Chris23
I'm still looking to remount my toms with 7/8" tubes. I'm considering
two l-rods vs. two tube arms. Once your drums ar in place on the l-
rods - you can't move toward you or away from you. Isn't this a
problem for some players?
Chris

Can't you just slide the other half of the L towards or away from you?
The half that the tom isn't mounted on. I personally swear by
omni-balls. You get very little forwards/backwards adjustment, but tons
of adjustability in every other way.

[Chris23]

Post by Zomoniac

I'm still looking to remount my toms with 7/8" tubes.  I'm considering
two l-rods vs. two tube arms.  Once your drums ar in place on the l-
rods - you can't move toward you or away from you.  Isn't this a
problem for some players?
Chris

Can't you just slide the other half of the L towards or away from you?
The half that the tom isn't mounted on. I personally swear by
omni-balls. You get very little forwards/backwards adjustment, but tons
of adjustability in every other way.
--
Zo

I just bought a Gibraltar. It a has a ball that it pivots on which
and a fixed length on the lower part of the L. With that type of
mount you get it set to the right angle, and there's no adjusting the
distance toward or away from you.

Chris

[Sean Conolly]

Post by Chris23
I'm still looking to remount my toms with 7/8" tubes. I'm considering
two l-rods vs. two tube arms. Once your drums ar in place on the l-
rods - you can't move toward you or away from you. Isn't this a
problem for some players?

They make tube arms with omni-balls now, which solves a lot of the problems
that I used to have with tube mounts. I personally don't need to slide the
drum down the arm because I prefer having the pedals closer to me, so my
drums are usually as close to the arms as I can get to the bass drum mount.

Unfortunately, it's hard to tell what's going to work best for you till you
spend some of time using the setup. It takes a while to find the right
combination of setup and adjusting convienience to fit your own needs. I
started out trying to analyze what the best arrangement was, but over the
years I found that it didn't always work the way I thought it would.

Sean

[-MIKE-]

Post by Sean Conolly

Post by Chris23
I'm still looking to remount my toms with 7/8" tubes. I'm considering
two l-rods vs. two tube arms. Once your drums ar in place on the l-
rods - you can't move toward you or away from you. Isn't this a
problem for some players?

They make tube arms with omni-balls now, which solves a lot of the problems
that I used to have with tube mounts. I personally don't need to slide the
drum down the arm because I prefer having the pedals closer to me, so my
drums are usually as close to the arms as I can get to the bass drum mount.
Unfortunately, it's hard to tell what's going to work best for you till you
spend some of time using the setup. It takes a while to find the right
combination of setup and adjusting convienience to fit your own needs. I
started out trying to analyze what the best arrangement was, but over the
years I found that it didn't always work the way I thought it would.
Sean

Kind of makes you wish you played piano, huh? :-)

[Sean Conolly]

Post by -MIKE-

Post by Sean Conolly

Post by Chris23
I'm still looking to remount my toms with 7/8" tubes. I'm considering
two l-rods vs. two tube arms. Once your drums ar in place on the l-
rods - you can't move toward you or away from you. Isn't this a
problem for some players?

They make tube arms with omni-balls now, which solves a lot of the problems
that I used to have with tube mounts. I personally don't need to slide the
drum down the arm because I prefer having the pedals closer to me, so my
drums are usually as close to the arms as I can get to the bass drum mount.
Unfortunately, it's hard to tell what's going to work best for you till you
spend some of time using the setup. It takes a while to find the right
combination of setup and adjusting convienience to fit your own needs. I
started out trying to analyze what the best arrangement was, but over the
years I found that it didn't always work the way I thought it would.
Sean

Kind of makes you wish you played piano, huh? :-)

No, I should have been a lead singer. Show up late without bringing anything
and complain because your mic isn't set up yet :-)

Sean

[Steve Turner]

Post by Sean Conolly
No, I should have been a lead singer. Show up late without bringing anything
and complain because your mic isn't set up yet :-)

Ba-dop, PSSSH!

[-MIKE-]

Post by Sean Conolly

Post by -MIKE-
Kind of makes you wish you played piano, huh? :-)

No, I should have been a lead singer. Show up late without bringing anything
and complain because your mic isn't set up yet :-)
Sean

All the singer has to carry is his ego.

[fnord]

Post by -MIKE-
All the singer has to carry is his ego.
--
  -MIKE-

It often takes the form of a crucifix.

Singers....