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I need a snare tension bolt for a Gretsch Lightning throw off
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Keith Runfola
2010-07-25 03:10:53 UTC
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I need a snare tension bolt for a Gretsch Lightning throw off.
By tension bolt I mean the large thumb screw type thing that you twist
to tighten the snares or loosen the snares a bit. That sounds stupid,
but I don't know what it's called. Gretsch will only sell the complete
butt plate assembly for $70.
I have been haunting Home Depot and Lowes for suitable replacements
and have come very close.
I found this at HD:
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=71628

It's very close to a workable solution but is too short.

The 2" version:
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=38268

is not available at HD or Lowes as far as I can tell. It appears that
the above company, Crown Bolt, does not sell to the public though I
have an email in to them to check that out. So, any ideas out there?
(It would be ideal to find a good used one but so far, no luck.)
Thanks.


Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Steve Turner
2010-07-25 04:17:40 UTC
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Post by Keith Runfola
I need a snare tension bolt for a Gretsch Lightning throw off.
By tension bolt I mean the large thumb screw type thing that you twist
to tighten the snares or loosen the snares a bit. That sounds stupid,
but I don't know what it's called. Gretsch will only sell the complete
butt plate assembly for $70.
I have been haunting Home Depot and Lowes for suitable replacements
and have come very close.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=71628
It's very close to a workable solution but is too short.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=38268
is not available at HD or Lowes as far as I can tell. It appears that
the above company, Crown Bolt, does not sell to the public though I
have an email in to them to check that out. So, any ideas out there?
(It would be ideal to find a good used one but so far, no luck.)
Thanks.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Keith, try McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com

Start with "Screws & Bolts", then on to "Thumb Screws". One path I took that
brought me here:

http://www.mcmaster.com/itm/find.ASP?tab=find&context=psrchDtlLink&fasttrack=False&searchstring=91746A380

$6.25 for one stainless steel thumb screw, but it's better than $75. There may
be other options; McMaster-Carr has ALL KINDS of goodies...
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Steve Turner
2010-07-25 04:28:58 UTC
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Post by Keith Runfola
I need a snare tension bolt for a Gretsch Lightning throw off.
By tension bolt I mean the large thumb screw type thing that you twist
to tighten the snares or loosen the snares a bit. That sounds stupid,
but I don't know what it's called. Gretsch will only sell the complete
butt plate assembly for $70.
I have been haunting Home Depot and Lowes for suitable replacements
and have come very close.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=71628
It's very close to a workable solution but is too short.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=38268
is not available at HD or Lowes as far as I can tell. It appears that
the above company, Crown Bolt, does not sell to the public though I
have an email in to them to check that out. So, any ideas out there?
(It would be ideal to find a good used one but so far, no luck.)
Thanks.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Keith, try McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com
Start with "Screws & Bolts", then on to "Thumb Screws". One path I took
http://www.mcmaster.com/itm/find.ASP?tab=find&context=psrchDtlLink&fasttrack=False&searchstring=91746A380
$6.25 for one stainless steel thumb screw, but it's better than $75.
There may be other options; McMaster-Carr has ALL KINDS of goodies...
Hmm, that link doesn't look like it does anything; try searching on part#
91746A380 instead.

FYI: careful that you make sure the material type is acceptable. I went down a
slightly different path (head style with shoulder) and after selecting all the
right thread and length criteria the only result was a screw made of plastic,
which didn't immediately jump out at me.
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Keith Runfola
2010-07-25 18:58:42 UTC
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:28:58 -0500, Steve Turner
Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
I need a snare tension bolt for a Gretsch Lightning throw off.
By tension bolt I mean the large thumb screw type thing that you twist
to tighten the snares or loosen the snares a bit. That sounds stupid,
but I don't know what it's called. Gretsch will only sell the complete
butt plate assembly for $70.
I have been haunting Home Depot and Lowes for suitable replacements
and have come very close.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=71628
It's very close to a workable solution but is too short.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=38268
is not available at HD or Lowes as far as I can tell. It appears that
the above company, Crown Bolt, does not sell to the public though I
have an email in to them to check that out. So, any ideas out there?
(It would be ideal to find a good used one but so far, no luck.)
Thanks.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Keith, try McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com
Start with "Screws & Bolts", then on to "Thumb Screws". One path I took
http://www.mcmaster.com/itm/find.ASP?tab=find&context=psrchDtlLink&fasttrack=False&searchstring=91746A380
$6.25 for one stainless steel thumb screw, but it's better than $75.
There may be other options; McMaster-Carr has ALL KINDS of goodies...
Hmm, that link doesn't look like it does anything; try searching on part#
91746A380 instead.
FYI: careful that you make sure the material type is acceptable. I went down a
slightly different path (head style with shoulder) and after selecting all the
right thread and length criteria the only result was a screw made of plastic,
which didn't immediately jump out at me.
Thank you sir. That is alot of money for one screw but it would be
well worth it if it actually works. I wonder if it's metric. I'm
fairly certain that I need metric.


Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Keith Runfola
2010-07-25 19:00:25 UTC
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:58:42 -0400, Keith Runfola
Post by Keith Runfola
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:28:58 -0500, Steve Turner
Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
I need a snare tension bolt for a Gretsch Lightning throw off.
By tension bolt I mean the large thumb screw type thing that you twist
to tighten the snares or loosen the snares a bit. That sounds stupid,
but I don't know what it's called. Gretsch will only sell the complete
butt plate assembly for $70.
I have been haunting Home Depot and Lowes for suitable replacements
and have come very close.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=71628
It's very close to a workable solution but is too short.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=38268
is not available at HD or Lowes as far as I can tell. It appears that
the above company, Crown Bolt, does not sell to the public though I
have an email in to them to check that out. So, any ideas out there?
(It would be ideal to find a good used one but so far, no luck.)
Thanks.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Keith, try McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com
Start with "Screws & Bolts", then on to "Thumb Screws". One path I took
http://www.mcmaster.com/itm/find.ASP?tab=find&context=psrchDtlLink&fasttrack=False&searchstring=91746A380
$6.25 for one stainless steel thumb screw, but it's better than $75.
There may be other options; McMaster-Carr has ALL KINDS of goodies...
Hmm, that link doesn't look like it does anything; try searching on part#
91746A380 instead.
FYI: careful that you make sure the material type is acceptable. I went down a
slightly different path (head style with shoulder) and after selecting all the
right thread and length criteria the only result was a screw made of plastic,
which didn't immediately jump out at me.
Thank you sir. That is alot of money for one screw but it would be
well worth it if it actually works. I wonder if it's metric. I'm
fairly certain that I need metric.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Duh. I see it's measured in inches so that would indicate that it is
not metric.


Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Steve Turner
2010-07-25 19:08:11 UTC
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Post by Keith Runfola
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:58:42 -0400, Keith Runfola
Post by Keith Runfola
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:28:58 -0500, Steve Turner
Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
I need a snare tension bolt for a Gretsch Lightning throw off.
By tension bolt I mean the large thumb screw type thing that you twist
to tighten the snares or loosen the snares a bit. That sounds stupid,
but I don't know what it's called. Gretsch will only sell the complete
butt plate assembly for $70.
I have been haunting Home Depot and Lowes for suitable replacements
and have come very close.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=71628
It's very close to a workable solution but is too short.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=38268
is not available at HD or Lowes as far as I can tell. It appears that
the above company, Crown Bolt, does not sell to the public though I
have an email in to them to check that out. So, any ideas out there?
(It would be ideal to find a good used one but so far, no luck.)
Thanks.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Keith, try McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com
Start with "Screws& Bolts", then on to "Thumb Screws". One path I took
http://www.mcmaster.com/itm/find.ASP?tab=find&context=psrchDtlLink&fasttrack=False&searchstring=91746A380
$6.25 for one stainless steel thumb screw, but it's better than $75.
There may be other options; McMaster-Carr has ALL KINDS of goodies...
Hmm, that link doesn't look like it does anything; try searching on part#
91746A380 instead.
FYI: careful that you make sure the material type is acceptable. I went down a
slightly different path (head style with shoulder) and after selecting all the
right thread and length criteria the only result was a screw made of plastic,
which didn't immediately jump out at me.
Thank you sir. That is alot of money for one screw but it would be
well worth it if it actually works. I wonder if it's metric. I'm
fairly certain that I need metric.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Duh. I see it's measured in inches so that would indicate that it is
not metric.
I have several Gretsch snares with lightening throws, and I just pulled one
apart and verified that the thumbscrew threads are indeed 10-32, which is a
standard thread based on inches and not metric units. The threaded shank is
2-1/4" long, and the thumbscrew section is 3/4" long, which makes the entire
thing 3" long. There is plenty of extra length to them, and I think the part
number that I referenced would work fine, even though the threaded shank is
1/4" shorter than the stock unit.
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Keith Runfola
2010-07-25 19:12:04 UTC
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:08:11 -0500, Steve Turner
Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:58:42 -0400, Keith Runfola
Post by Keith Runfola
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:28:58 -0500, Steve Turner
Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
I need a snare tension bolt for a Gretsch Lightning throw off.
By tension bolt I mean the large thumb screw type thing that you twist
to tighten the snares or loosen the snares a bit. That sounds stupid,
but I don't know what it's called. Gretsch will only sell the complete
butt plate assembly for $70.
I have been haunting Home Depot and Lowes for suitable replacements
and have come very close.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=71628
It's very close to a workable solution but is too short.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=38268
is not available at HD or Lowes as far as I can tell. It appears that
the above company, Crown Bolt, does not sell to the public though I
have an email in to them to check that out. So, any ideas out there?
(It would be ideal to find a good used one but so far, no luck.)
Thanks.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Keith, try McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com
Start with "Screws& Bolts", then on to "Thumb Screws". One path I took
http://www.mcmaster.com/itm/find.ASP?tab=find&context=psrchDtlLink&fasttrack=False&searchstring=91746A380
$6.25 for one stainless steel thumb screw, but it's better than $75.
There may be other options; McMaster-Carr has ALL KINDS of goodies...
Hmm, that link doesn't look like it does anything; try searching on part#
91746A380 instead.
FYI: careful that you make sure the material type is acceptable. I went down a
slightly different path (head style with shoulder) and after selecting all the
right thread and length criteria the only result was a screw made of plastic,
which didn't immediately jump out at me.
Thank you sir. That is alot of money for one screw but it would be
well worth it if it actually works. I wonder if it's metric. I'm
fairly certain that I need metric.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Duh. I see it's measured in inches so that would indicate that it is
not metric.
I have several Gretsch snares with lightening throws, and I just pulled one
apart and verified that the thumbscrew threads are indeed 10-32, which is a
standard thread based on inches and not metric units. The threaded shank is
2-1/4" long, and the thumbscrew section is 3/4" long, which makes the entire
thing 3" long. There is plenty of extra length to them, and I think the part
number that I referenced would work fine, even though the threaded shank is
1/4" shorter than the stock unit.
You are a prince. Thanks so much!


Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Steve Turner
2010-07-25 19:22:16 UTC
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Post by Keith Runfola
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:08:11 -0500, Steve Turner
Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:58:42 -0400, Keith Runfola
Duh. I see it's measured in inches so that would indicate that it is
not metric.
I have several Gretsch snares with lightening throws, and I just pulled one
apart and verified that the thumbscrew threads are indeed 10-32, which is a
standard thread based on inches and not metric units. The threaded shank is
2-1/4" long, and the thumbscrew section is 3/4" long, which makes the entire
thing 3" long. There is plenty of extra length to them, and I think the part
number that I referenced would work fine, even though the threaded shank is
1/4" shorter than the stock unit.
You are a prince. Thanks so much!
Well I don't know about that, but I'm glad to help nonetheless. :-) Good luck.
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Steve Turner
2010-07-26 04:50:45 UTC
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Post by Keith Runfola
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:08:11 -0500, Steve Turner
Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:58:42 -0400, Keith Runfola
Duh. I see it's measured in inches so that would indicate that it is
not metric.
I have several Gretsch snares with lightening throws, and I just pulled one
apart and verified that the thumbscrew threads are indeed 10-32, which is a
standard thread based on inches and not metric units. The threaded
shank is
2-1/4" long, and the thumbscrew section is 3/4" long, which makes the entire
thing 3" long. There is plenty of extra length to them, and I think
the part
number that I referenced would work fine, even though the threaded shank is
1/4" shorter than the stock unit.
You are a prince. Thanks so much!
Well I don't know about that, but I'm glad to help nonetheless. :-) Good
luck.
BTW Keith, you do know that there is a spring inside the Lightening throw,
right? I was thinking that if the thumbscrew was missing the spring might also
be missing and you might not know it because the thumbscrew passes through the
spring and holds it in place. If it's missing and you need one let me know and
I can post back with its specs and measurements so you can replace it with one
that's equivalent.
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Keith Runfola
2010-07-26 18:14:08 UTC
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Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:08:11 -0500, Steve Turner
Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:58:42 -0400, Keith Runfola
Duh. I see it's measured in inches so that would indicate that it is
not metric.
I have several Gretsch snares with lightening throws, and I just pulled one
apart and verified that the thumbscrew threads are indeed 10-32, which is a
standard thread based on inches and not metric units. The threaded
shank is
2-1/4" long, and the thumbscrew section is 3/4" long, which makes the entire
thing 3" long. There is plenty of extra length to them, and I think
the part
number that I referenced would work fine, even though the threaded shank is
1/4" shorter than the stock unit.
You are a prince. Thanks so much!
Well I don't know about that, but I'm glad to help nonetheless. :-) Good
luck.
BTW Keith, you do know that there is a spring inside the Lightening throw,
right? I was thinking that if the thumbscrew was missing the spring might also
be missing and you might not know it because the thumbscrew passes through the
spring and holds it in place. If it's missing and you need one let me know and
I can post back with its specs and measurements so you can replace it with one
that's equivalent.
I've got the spring, thanks. The thumbscrew is not missing, it's
stripped. Maybe I forgot to mention that. In anticipation of your
potential next question, the part of the strainer that the thumb screw
goes into is not stripped.


Keith Runfola
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www.GreenOakArts.com
Steve Turner
2010-07-26 20:28:40 UTC
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Post by Keith Runfola
I've got the spring, thanks. The thumbscrew is not missing, it's
stripped. Maybe I forgot to mention that. In anticipation of your
potential next question, the part of the strainer that the thumb screw
goes into is not stripped.
You're lucky then; I had the exact opposite situation on one of my Lightening Throw butt
assemblies The casting for the outer housing has a horizontal rib on the inside through
which a hole is drilled and tapped to receive the tension rod/thumbscrew. This casting is
relatively soft metal, and in my case that's the part that stripped out (hopefully you don't
have this situation and just haven't discovered it yet). The tension rod on mine had a
bunch of metal from the casting galled up and lodged in the threads, but I was able to clean
that up with a 10-32 die/re-threader and it was fine. However, the threads on the casting
were pretty much ruined, so I had to "fix" it by drilling the hole big enough for the
tension rod to pass through the rib, then I glued a square 10-32 nut on the backside (bottom
side) of the rib with large gobs of JB-Weld (epoxy), and it's been serving me well ever since.
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Keith Runfola
2010-07-25 19:09:27 UTC
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Post by Keith Runfola
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:58:42 -0400, Keith Runfola
Post by Keith Runfola
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:28:58 -0500, Steve Turner
Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
I need a snare tension bolt for a Gretsch Lightning throw off.
By tension bolt I mean the large thumb screw type thing that you twist
to tighten the snares or loosen the snares a bit. That sounds stupid,
but I don't know what it's called. Gretsch will only sell the complete
butt plate assembly for $70.
I have been haunting Home Depot and Lowes for suitable replacements
and have come very close.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=71628
It's very close to a workable solution but is too short.
http://www.crownbolt.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?Type=T4&Cat=C30&SubCat=S82&Part=38268
is not available at HD or Lowes as far as I can tell. It appears that
the above company, Crown Bolt, does not sell to the public though I
have an email in to them to check that out. So, any ideas out there?
(It would be ideal to find a good used one but so far, no luck.)
Thanks.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Keith, try McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com
Start with "Screws & Bolts", then on to "Thumb Screws". One path I took
http://www.mcmaster.com/itm/find.ASP?tab=find&context=psrchDtlLink&fasttrack=False&searchstring=91746A380
$6.25 for one stainless steel thumb screw, but it's better than $75.
There may be other options; McMaster-Carr has ALL KINDS of goodies...
Hmm, that link doesn't look like it does anything; try searching on part#
91746A380 instead.
FYI: careful that you make sure the material type is acceptable. I went down a
slightly different path (head style with shoulder) and after selecting all the
right thread and length criteria the only result was a screw made of plastic,
which didn't immediately jump out at me.
Thank you sir. That is alot of money for one screw but it would be
well worth it if it actually works. I wonder if it's metric. I'm
fairly certain that I need metric.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Duh. I see it's measured in inches so that would indicate that it is
not metric.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
I realize I'm not making too much sence because the dimensions of the
bolt that I mention are NOT metric. However, that's the hole that it
fit in at the home depot. Also, I found another one that claimed to be
#10-32 and it did not fit. Very confusing.

Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
-MIKE-
2010-07-26 04:10:26 UTC
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I realize I'm not making too much sence because the dimensions of the
bolt that I mention are NOT metric. However, that's the hole that it
fit in at the home depot. Also, I found another one that claimed to be
#10-32 and it did not fit. Very confusing.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
5mm and 10/32 threading is very similar. 5mm is a little bigger and
will be difficult to thread into 10/32, but 10/32 will often thread into
5mm, though loosely.
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Steve Turner
2010-07-26 04:44:21 UTC
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Post by Keith Runfola
I realize I'm not making too much sence because the dimensions of the
bolt that I mention are NOT metric. However, that's the hole that it
fit in at the home depot. Also, I found another one that claimed to be
#10-32 and it did not fit. Very confusing.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
5mm and 10/32 threading is very similar. 5mm is a little bigger and will
be difficult to thread into 10/32, but 10/32 will often thread into 5mm,
though loosely.
Yes, and that can be confusing when you're trying to figure out what in the
heck kind thread you're dealing with, especially if the parts or machining are
of crappy substandard quality. However, Gretsch "Lightening" throws are
American made components (unless we're talking about some modern re-tooled
equivalent made overseas, in which case I have no first-hand knowledge) that
have been around for years and most certainly use 10-32 threads rather than metric.
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-MIKE-
2010-07-26 15:59:42 UTC
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Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
I realize I'm not making too much sence because the dimensions of the
bolt that I mention are NOT metric. However, that's the hole that it
fit in at the home depot. Also, I found another one that claimed to be
#10-32 and it did not fit. Very confusing.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
5mm and 10/32 threading is very similar. 5mm is a little bigger and will
be difficult to thread into 10/32, but 10/32 will often thread into 5mm,
though loosely.
Yes, and that can be confusing when you're trying to figure out what in
the heck kind thread you're dealing with, especially if the parts or
machining are of crappy substandard quality. However, Gretsch
"Lightening" throws are American made components (unless we're talking
about some modern re-tooled equivalent made overseas, in which case I
have no first-hand knowledge) that have been around for years and most
certainly use 10-32 threads rather than metric.
I was saying all that as a precaution to him to double check.
I either hadn't read or hadn't paid attention to your reply.

Just got back from sleeping on the bus so who knows what I wrote. :-)
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Keith Runfola
2010-07-26 18:09:36 UTC
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:44:21 -0500, Steve Turner
Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
I realize I'm not making too much sence because the dimensions of the
bolt that I mention are NOT metric. However, that's the hole that it
fit in at the home depot. Also, I found another one that claimed to be
#10-32 and it did not fit. Very confusing.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
5mm and 10/32 threading is very similar. 5mm is a little bigger and will
be difficult to thread into 10/32, but 10/32 will often thread into 5mm,
though loosely.
Yes, and that can be confusing when you're trying to figure out what in the
heck kind thread you're dealing with, especially if the parts or machining are
of crappy substandard quality. However, Gretsch "Lightening" throws are
American made components (unless we're talking about some modern re-tooled
equivalent made overseas, in which case I have no first-hand knowledge) that
have been around for years and most certainly use 10-32 threads rather than metric.
That's good because I ordered the part that Steve found on
http://www.mcmaster.com and it is non-metric. This is an 80's Gretsch
snare.

Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Keith Runfola
2010-07-27 02:57:20 UTC
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:09:36 -0400, Keith Runfola
Post by Keith Runfola
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:44:21 -0500, Steve Turner
Post by Steve Turner
Post by Keith Runfola
I realize I'm not making too much sence because the dimensions of the
bolt that I mention are NOT metric. However, that's the hole that it
fit in at the home depot. Also, I found another one that claimed to be
#10-32 and it did not fit. Very confusing.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
5mm and 10/32 threading is very similar. 5mm is a little bigger and will
be difficult to thread into 10/32, but 10/32 will often thread into 5mm,
though loosely.
Yes, and that can be confusing when you're trying to figure out what in the
heck kind thread you're dealing with, especially if the parts or machining are
of crappy substandard quality. However, Gretsch "Lightening" throws are
American made components (unless we're talking about some modern re-tooled
equivalent made overseas, in which case I have no first-hand knowledge) that
have been around for years and most certainly use 10-32 threads rather than metric.
That's good because I ordered the part that Steve found on
http://www.mcmaster.com and it is non-metric. This is an 80's Gretsch
snare.
Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Got it today and it's working perfectly! Thanks to all and especially
Steve. I ordered it Sunday night and it got here this afternoon
(Monday). Turns out that http://www.mcmaster.com has an Atlanta
warehouse. It was $11.24 !!! $6.25 for the thumb screw and $4.25 for
the shipping. I think I'm in the wrong business!
But I'm completely happy since it beats the hell out of $80 to Gretsch
for much more than I need.
Also Steve, thanks for the heads up on accidentally buying plastic
parts. I saw a couple of Thumb screws on the Mcmaster site with larger
heads and one with a "collar" that would have been better, but VERY
close inspection revealed that they are "nylon" or plastic. You have
to look very closely at the specs.
The only thing lacking with the one I got is the so called "collar"
but I think a washer or some kind of bushing will do just fine.
Thanks again!


Keith Runfola
www.JazzDrummer.com
www.GreenOakArts.com
Steve Turner
2010-07-27 15:40:55 UTC
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Post by Keith Runfola
Got it today and it's working perfectly! Thanks to all and especially
Steve. I ordered it Sunday night and it got here this afternoon
(Monday). Turns out that http://www.mcmaster.com has an Atlanta
warehouse. It was $11.24 !!! $6.25 for the thumb screw and $4.25 for
the shipping. I think I'm in the wrong business!
But I'm completely happy since it beats the hell out of $80 to Gretsch
for much more than I need.
Also Steve, thanks for the heads up on accidentally buying plastic
parts. I saw a couple of Thumb screws on the Mcmaster site with larger
heads and one with a "collar" that would have been better, but VERY
close inspection revealed that they are "nylon" or plastic. You have
to look very closely at the specs.
The only thing lacking with the one I got is the so called "collar"
but I think a washer or some kind of bushing will do just fine.
Thanks again!
One-day shipping? That's insane! That's great Keith; I'm glad it worked out.
Yes, the "style" of the nylon thumbscrews would have been a better match for
the original Gretsch part if only they made them in metal. McMaster-Carr
doesn't _always_ have exactly what I'm looking for, but very often they do and
their selection is pretty impressive. Their website is very impressive too,
and their navigation system makes it very easy to find what you're looking for,
but you do have to keep a close eye on the results criteria to make sure it
doesn't narrow things down to something you don't want.
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2010-07-27 16:04:05 UTC
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Post by Keith Runfola
Got it today and it's working perfectly! Thanks to all and especially
Steve. I ordered it Sunday night and it got here this afternoon
(Monday). Turns out that http://www.mcmaster.com has an Atlanta
warehouse. It was $11.24 !!! $6.25 for the thumb screw and $4.25 for
the shipping. I think I'm in the wrong business!
But I'm completely happy since it beats the hell out of $80 to Gretsch
for much more than I need.
Also Steve, thanks for the heads up on accidentally buying plastic
parts. I saw a couple of Thumb screws on the Mcmaster site with larger
heads and one with a "collar" that would have been better, but VERY
close inspection revealed that they are "nylon" or plastic. You have
to look very closely at the specs.
The only thing lacking with the one I got is the so called "collar"
but I think a washer or some kind of bushing will do just fine.
Thanks again!
One-day shipping? That's insane! That's great Keith; I'm glad it worked
out. Yes, the "style" of the nylon thumbscrews would have been a better
match for the original Gretsch part if only they made them in metal.
McMaster-Carr doesn't _always_ have exactly what I'm looking for, but
very often they do and their selection is pretty impressive. Their
website is very impressive too, and their navigation system makes it
very easy to find what you're looking for, but you do have to keep a
close eye on the results criteria to make sure it doesn't narrow things
down to something you don't want.
For future reference, I like this place, too.

http://www.boltdepot.com/
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