Cymbals with smaller holes

[Andy C]

I just picked up some vintage Avedis cymbals with the smaller holes. They
don't fit on my current cymbal stands with the cymbal sleeve. What do
people generally do about this? Just get different stands? It is kind of a
pain to have different stands for different cymbals. Maybe someone sells
something you can screw on a regular size thread which has a small thread on
top, like an adapter?

thanks,
Andy

[keith runfola]

Post by Andy C
I just picked up some vintage Avedis cymbals with the smaller holes. They
don't fit on my current cymbal stands with the cymbal sleeve. What do
people generally do about this? Just get different stands? It is kind of a
pain to have different stands for different cymbals. Maybe someone sells
something you can screw on a regular size thread which has a small thread on
top, like an adapter?
thanks,
Andy

Last time I had this problem it was solved by smaller cymbal sleeves.
My local drum shop had some that were thin and you almst have to screw
them on to the stand. It's definately a problem though. I show up to
sub on some gigs where the hardware is already there and my cymbals
won't fit on the stands! I've played a few gigs where my precious
cymbals were just kind of dangling there, not really "in the pocket"
so to speak.


www.jazzdrummer.com

[-MIKE-]

Post by Andy C
I just picked up some vintage Avedis cymbals with the smaller holes. They
don't fit on my current cymbal stands with the cymbal sleeve. What do
people generally do about this? Just get different stands? It is kind of
a pain to have different stands for different cymbals. Maybe someone
sells something you can screw on a regular size thread which has a small
thread on top, like an adapter?
thanks,
Andy

Some will surely yell, "heretic" for this, but you could bore them
out a bit. Using a "unibit" http://tinyurl.com/33wu7 to slowly
bore the hole out to a larger size would work fine. As long as you
drilled very slowly, so the bit was shaving the metal, like a plow
through the soil, it would have no ill effect on the cymbal. Using
thin strips of emory cloth through the hole (like a guy polishing
shoes) would take the edge off the hole.


-MIKE-

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[Glenn Dowdy]

Post by -MIKE-

Post by Andy C
I just picked up some vintage Avedis cymbals with the smaller holes.

They

Post by -MIKE-

Post by Andy C
don't fit on my current cymbal stands with the cymbal sleeve. What do
people generally do about this? Just get different stands? It is kind of
a pain to have different stands for different cymbals. Maybe someone
sells something you can screw on a regular size thread which has a small
thread on top, like an adapter?
thanks,
Andy

Some will surely yell, "heretic" for this, but you could bore them
out a bit. Using a "unibit" http://tinyurl.com/33wu7 to slowly
bore the hole out to a larger size would work fine. As long as you
drilled very slowly, so the bit was shaving the metal, like a plow
through the soil, it would have no ill effect on the cymbal. Using
thin strips of emory cloth through the hole (like a guy polishing
shoes) would take the edge off the hole.

Or you could buy Tama stands or replacement boom arms. They use a 6mm
diameter as opposed to a 8mm used by most other companies. There may be
other sources for 6mm ends, too.

Glenn D.

[Dan Radin]

Post by Glenn Dowdy
Or you could buy Tama stands or replacement boom arms. They use a 6mm
diameter as opposed to a 8mm used by most other companies. There may be
other sources for 6mm ends, too.

Tama switched most of their stands to 8MM with the introduction of the
RoadPro and Swingstar hardware lines in around 1999. FYI. Titan might still
be 6MM.

[Glenn Dowdy]

Post by Dan Radin

Post by Glenn Dowdy
Or you could buy Tama stands or replacement boom arms. They use a 6mm
diameter as opposed to a 8mm used by most other companies. There may be
other sources for 6mm ends, too.

Tama switched most of their stands to 8MM with the introduction of the
RoadPro and Swingstar hardware lines in around 1999. FYI. Titan might still
be 6MM.

As I was typing the above post, I was thinking "Dan will have the most up to
date information and will correct me if I'm wrong". Thanks for coming
through.

Glenn D.

[Dan Radin]

Post by Glenn Dowdy
As I was typing the above post, I was thinking "Dan will have the most up to
date information and will correct me if I'm wrong". Thanks for coming
through.

And I'm not even a Tama dealer. Scary ain't it? :)

[Glenn Dowdy]

Post by Dan Radin

Post by Glenn Dowdy
As I was typing the above post, I was thinking "Dan will have the most

up

Post by Dan Radin
to

Post by Glenn Dowdy
date information and will correct me if I'm wrong". Thanks for coming
through.

And I'm not even a Tama dealer. Scary ain't it? :)

You're a drum geek. Knowledge is good.

Glenn D.

[Kirt Wingard]

Post by -MIKE-

Post by Andy C
I just picked up some vintage Avedis cymbals with the smaller holes. They
don't fit on my current cymbal stands with the cymbal sleeve. What do
people generally do about this? Just get different stands? It is kind of
a pain to have different stands for different cymbals. Maybe someone
sells something you can screw on a regular size thread which has a small
thread on top, like an adapter?
thanks,
Andy

Some will surely yell, "heretic" for this, but you could bore them
out a bit. Using a "unibit" http://tinyurl.com/33wu7 to slowly
bore the hole out to a larger size would work fine. As long as you
drilled very slowly, so the bit was shaving the metal, like a plow
through the soil, it would have no ill effect on the cymbal. Using
thin strips of emory cloth through the hole (like a guy polishing
shoes) would take the edge off the hole.

HERETIC!!!

Instead of drilling the cymbal a)use a 1950's cymbal stand, or b) take your
existing stand(s) to a machine shop and have them cut off the existing
cymbal holder threads and install a straight thread with a smaller diameter.
Incidently, since I have had the same problem I found that those gray water
supply lines make perfect sleeves for the old cymbals...just one of them
will give you enough for over a dozen stands.

/kirt
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[Stan Mulder]

Post by Andy C
I just picked up some vintage Avedis cymbals with the smaller holes. They
don't fit on my current cymbal stands with the cymbal sleeve. What do
people generally do about this? Just get different stands? It is kind of a
pain to have different stands for different cymbals. Maybe someone sells
something you can screw on a regular size thread which has a small thread on
top, like an adapter?

Andy,

Maybe this will help:

If you are more of a collector, get a different cymbal stand and preserve
the cymbal in its original state for resale value.

If you are more of a drummer, drill the cymbal hole a little bigger.

Otherwise there may be some gadget that will cope with the smaller hole,
but then you have to keep it with that cymbal at all times.

Stan

[Kirt Wingard]

Post by Stan Mulder

Post by Andy C
I just picked up some vintage Avedis cymbals with the smaller holes. They
don't fit on my current cymbal stands with the cymbal sleeve. What do
people generally do about this? Just get different stands? It is kind of a
pain to have different stands for different cymbals. Maybe someone sells
something you can screw on a regular size thread which has a small thread on
top, like an adapter?

Andy,
If you are more of a collector, get a different cymbal stand and preserve
the cymbal in its original state for resale value.
If you are more of a drummer, drill the cymbal hole a little bigger.
Otherwise there may be some gadget that will cope with the smaller hole,
but then you have to keep it with that cymbal at all times.
Stan

BITE YOUR TONGUE!!! The reason that the hole is smaller is because it's
VINTAGE!!! DO NOT DRILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

/kirt
--
Cat's foot iron claw
Neuro-surgeons scream for more
At paranoia's poison door.
Twenty first century schizoid man.

Blood rack barbed wire
Polititians' funeral pyre
Innocents raped with napalm fire
Twenty first century schizoid man.

Death seed blind man's greed
Poets' starving children bleed
Nothing he's got he really needs
Twenty first century schizoid man.

[Robert Schuh]

Post by Andy C
I just picked up some vintage Avedis cymbals with the smaller holes. They
don't fit on my current cymbal stands with the cymbal sleeve. What do
people generally do about this? Just get different stands? It is kind of a
pain to have different stands for different cymbals. Maybe someone sells
something you can screw on a regular size thread which has a small thread on
top, like an adapter?
thanks,
Andy

Drill the holes out. It is really quite easy.


--
Robert Schuh
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intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

[BKO]

Post by Robert Schuh
Drill the holes out. It is really quite easy.

Yeah, well I fucked one up a few years ago. Maybe it's easy for some folks,
but not for all! :(

Sad part: It was the first cymbal I ever owned. A fine little Zildjian A,
circa 1960. I still use it as a 12" splash. It sounds great, but because
of yours truly it now has a really nasty looking hole (luckily it's covered
up by the felts).

BKO

[Steve Turner]

Post by BKO
circa 1960. I still use it as a 12" splash. It sounds great, but because
of yours truly it now has a really nasty looking hole

Good thing Dennis isn't hanging around in here, or we'd have to put up
with some stupid comment about that nasty looking hole. ;-)

[BKO]

Post by Steve Turner

Post by BKO
circa 1960. I still use it as a 12" splash. It sounds great, but because
of yours truly it now has a really nasty looking hole

Good thing Dennis isn't hanging around in here, or we'd have to put up
with some stupid comment about that nasty looking hole. ;-)

Oh yezz, the Bevis connection: 'hu hu hu, he said hole, hu hu'. I wondered
about that after I hit the send button. But you should be careful of who
you refer to. He could return you know. !!! :)

BKO