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Speed King
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Smitty
2009-07-05 20:42:46 UTC
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I've played Ludwig speed pedals for 30 + years. Never had anything else. My
leg is not as strong as it used to be when I was younger but I still like
fast double kicks. Is there another pedal that I should be looking at that
is fast with out a lot of effort?
Thanks
smitty
Pete Pemberton
2009-07-05 21:05:29 UTC
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Post by Smitty
I've played Ludwig speed pedals for 30 + years. Never had anything else. My
leg is not as strong as it used to be when I was younger but I still like
fast double kicks. Is there another pedal that I should be looking at that
is fast with out a lot of effort?
Thanks
smitty
Lots of pedals are faster. Look at Pearl Eliminator or the new Demon,
Axis Pedals, Iron Cobra.

I use the dw5000 and have for years, and they work for me.

PP
Benj
2009-07-08 22:28:21 UTC
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Post by Pete Pemberton
I've played Ludwig speed pedals for 30 +  years. Never had anything else. My
leg is not as strong as it used to be when I was younger but I still like
fast double kicks. Is there another pedal that I should be looking at that
is fast with out a lot of effort?
Thanks
smitty
I don't know why you'd want to keep playing a Squeak King, but they do
make reissues. I recall seeing a reissue pedal on the counter in a
drum store a while back. I gingerly poked at the footboard with my
finger and the beater swung forward and the pedal let out with a huge
squeak! I thought I was going to die laughing!
Post by Pete Pemberton
Lots of pedals are faster. Look at Pearl Eliminator or the new Demon,
Axis Pedals, Iron Cobra.
I use the dw5000 and have for years, and they work for me.
Petey is right and to expand on what he said: You have to choose your
own pedal. I've got a DW 5000 and I consider it the "standard" by
which you judge other pedals. Never the best, but always good
enough! The Eliminator is VERY fast and has the cam thing to change
the feel. Since the speed king is a link type pedal you may find the
feel of a chain-sprocket pedal not to your liking. The cam will help
eliminate some of that sprocket feel. An iron cobra is a chain pedal
heavier than the eliminator and more like a DW5000 but faster than the
the DW. They are very much like my standard "heavy" pedal which is a
vintage Gibalter intruder double modified with an Axis drive rod. If
you are into loud and powerful bass the Cobra will do it. The fastest
pedal of all is the Axis. Yes, I own one of those too. They are a link-
drive pedal like the Speed King so that is probably a plus for the
feel for you. On some models the link is adjustable. They are
extremely fast and light but I find because of the light feel it is
hard to get thunderous bass out of like it you can with a Cobra or DW
5000. Some of these pedals (not the axis) come in both chain and strap
versions. I personally find little difference, but some people think
the strap models are faster while the chain models are louder.

You just gotta try em. I own a variety of pedals and I don't think
that one pedal fits all situations. (unless you only play one
situation) We can't tell you what has the "right" feel for you. Try
em all. Pick the one you like.

Good Luck.
Pete Pemberton
2009-07-09 00:56:55 UTC
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Post by Smitty
Post by Pete Pemberton
I've played Ludwig speed pedals for 30 +  years. Never had anything e
lse. My
Post by Pete Pemberton
leg is not as strong as it used to be when I was younger but I still li
ke
Post by Pete Pemberton
fast double kicks. Is there another pedal that I should be looking at t
hat
Post by Pete Pemberton
is fast with out a lot of effort?
Thanks
smitty
I don't know why you'd want to keep playing a Squeak King, but they do
make reissues. I recall seeing a reissue pedal on the counter in a
drum store a while back. I gingerly poked at the footboard with my
finger and the beater swung forward and the pedal let out with a huge
squeak! I thought I was going to die laughing!
Post by Pete Pemberton
Lots of pedals are faster. Look at Pearl Eliminator or the new Demon,
Axis Pedals, Iron Cobra.
I use the dw5000 and have for years, and they work for me.
Petey is right and to expand on what he said: You have to choose your
own pedal. I've got a DW 5000 and I consider it the "standard" by
which you judge other pedals. Never the best, but always good
enough! The Eliminator is VERY fast and has the cam thing to change
the feel. Since the speed king is a link type pedal you may find the
feel of a chain-sprocket pedal not to your liking. The cam will help
eliminate some of that sprocket feel. An iron cobra is a chain pedal
heavier than the eliminator and more like a DW5000 but faster than the
the DW. They are very much like my standard "heavy" pedal which is a
vintage Gibalter intruder double modified with an Axis drive rod. If
you are into loud and powerful bass the Cobra will do it. The fastest
pedal of all is the Axis. Yes, I own one of those too. They are a link-
drive pedal like the Speed King so that is probably a plus for the
feel for you. On some models the link is adjustable. They are
extremely fast and light but I find because of the light feel it is
hard to get thunderous bass out of like it you can with a Cobra or DW
5000. Some of these pedals (not the axis) come in both chain and strap
versions. I personally find little difference, but some people think
the strap models are faster while the chain models are louder.
You just gotta try em. I own a variety of pedals and I don't think
that one pedal fits all situations. (unless you only play one
situation) We can't tell you what has the "right" feel for you. Try
em all. Pick the one you like.
Good Luck.
I like the weight of the dw5000, plus the long shafted wooden beaters
by Danmar round out that feel. I have used them for 20 years and always
come back to them 'cause that's what I am used to. I like the heavy
thunderous feel I guess.

When I get old like Benj maybe I will change... ;-P

pp
Benj
2009-07-09 05:45:08 UTC
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Post by Pete Pemberton
I like the weight of the dw5000, plus the long shafted wooden beaters
by Danmar round out that feel. I have used them for 20 years and always
come back to them 'cause that's what I am used to. I like the heavy
thunderous feel I guess.
When I get old like Benj maybe I will change... ;-P
Hey, you young whippersnapper! Didn't you read the part where I said
my DW5000 is my "standard" pedal?
I have a couple of wooden beaters I love and I also have a couple big
fuzzy ones for a totally different sound, but mostly I go with the
standard DW two-way beaters. Seems like a nice all-around beater.

And get off my lawn too!

Kevin J
2009-07-06 22:48:17 UTC
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Post by Smitty
Is there another pedal that I should be looking at that
is fast with out a lot of effort?
Thanks
smitty
In addition to the excellent recommendations you've already received,
you might also consider the Taye XP1 pedal. I was playing a Pearl
Eliminator until I bought this pedal ... haven't looked back since.

The Eliminator is a superb pedal, no doubt. But I was looking for a
pedal that felt great playing both heel up and heel down. The XP1
met that requirement easily due to its extremely adjustable nature.

Good Luck!

~ peace, Kevin J.
Rob
2009-07-09 03:25:32 UTC
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I've played Ludwig speed pedals for 30 +  years. Never had anything else. My
leg is not as strong as it used to be when I was younger but I still like
fast double kicks. Is there another pedal that I should be looking at that
is fast with out a lot of effort?
Thanks
smitty
I like the XP01 as well, and I can get it as a Taye dealer. Give me a
call at 802 345-1714 and I'll quote you a price. Also check out my
website at www.brandontrading.com for drums, accessories and Dream
Cymbals.

Rob
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