Hi-Hat Cymbal Question..All Opinions welcome

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n***@zoomnet.net

2011-03-08 21:29:34 UTC

Group,

I have a chance to pick up a set of Regular K hi-hats or a set of K
Constantinople hats for cheap.

Can anyone tell me the difference in character between the two types?

Can't afford both sets. Which ones should I get?

Thanks in advance.
MN

Steve Turner

2011-03-09 03:08:37 UTC

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Post by n***@zoomnet.net
Group,
I have a chance to pick up a set of Regular K hi-hats or a set of K
Constantinople hats for cheap.
Can anyone tell me the difference in character between the two types?
Can't afford both sets. Which ones should I get?
Thanks in advance.
MN

Personally, I'd get the K hats. I've tried hard to give the Constantinople
cymbals a fair shake, but every one I've ever tried just sounds like crap to my
ears, and the hats were no exception. I don't understand what people see in
the Constantinople line; maybe it's the "mystique". I'd encourage you to try
them first though; I'm not a fan of "dark" hi-hats and you may find that your
tastes are completely opposite of mine.

I've been on the search for a second set of hi-hats and I've found very few
that I like. I have a set of 14" Sabian AAX Stage Hats that I love, and I
REALLY love the sound of the HHX Evolution crashes, so when I got a chance to
try both HHX Stage Hats and HHX Groove Hats I assumed I'd be in love with
either and have a hard time choosing. Meh; I didn't like either one! Then I
tried a set of 14" Zildjian A Custom Mastersounds and they blew me away; some
of the best sounding hats I've ever heard! I'm currently on the prowl for a
set of those... :-)

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Zomoniac

2011-03-09 11:11:06 UTC

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Personally, I'd get the K hats. I've tried hard to give the
Constantinople cymbals a fair shake, but every one I've ever tried just
sounds like crap to my ears, and the hats were no exception. I don't
understand what people see in the Constantinople line; maybe it's the
"mystique". I'd encourage you to try them first though; I'm not a fan of
"dark" hi-hats and you may find that your tastes are completely opposite
of mine.
I've been on the search for a second set of hi-hats and I've found very
few that I like. I have a set of 14" Sabian AAX Stage Hats that I love,
and I REALLY love the sound of the HHX Evolution crashes, so when I got
a chance to try both HHX Stage Hats and HHX Groove Hats I assumed I'd be
in love with either and have a hard time choosing. Meh; I didn't like
either one! Then I tried a set of 14" Zildjian A Custom Mastersounds and
they blew me away; some of the best sounding hats I've ever heard! I'm
currently on the prowl for a set of those... :-)

You tried the 12" A Custom Mastersounds? Picked some up about 6 years
ago, as much for a novelty and for the option of a bright sound as
anything, but they're now my universal-use hats for everything. Amazing
things.

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Zo

n***@zoomnet.net

2011-03-10 01:05:08 UTC

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Thanks Steve...Thanks Zo.

My favorite set is still my A's I've had since the late 60's.

I will be checkin' out the A Custom MS as soon as I can.
MN

Sean Conolly

2011-03-11 20:16:36 UTC

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Post by Steve Turner

Personally, I'd get the K hats. I've tried hard to give the
Constantinople cymbals a fair shake, but every one I've ever tried just
sounds like crap to my ears, and the hats were no exception. I don't
understand what people see in the Constantinople line; maybe it's the
"mystique". I'd encourage you to try them first though; I'm not a fan of
"dark" hi-hats and you may find that your tastes are completely opposite
of mine.
I've been on the search for a second set of hi-hats and I've found very
few that I like. I have a set of 14" Sabian AAX Stage Hats that I love,
and I REALLY love the sound of the HHX Evolution crashes, so when I got a
chance to try both HHX Stage Hats and HHX Groove Hats I assumed I'd be in
love with either and have a hard time choosing. Meh; I didn't like either
one! Then I tried a set of 14" Zildjian A Custom Mastersounds and they
blew me away; some of the best sounding hats I've ever heard! I'm
currently on the prowl for a set of those... :-)

It's funny how much of it depends on whar you're used to hearing. I've had
hats that sounded great in the store but just didn't blend the way I wanted
on stage, and I've had the opposite also.

For versatility though, the Zild Quick Beats I bought in '88 still work
great for about 95% of the stuff I play, and I just haven't heard anything
else in the shops that really catches my ear.

Sean

Steve Turner

2011-03-12 00:30:46 UTC

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Post by Sean Conolly

Post by Steve Turner

Personally, I'd get the K hats. I've tried hard to give the
Constantinople cymbals a fair shake, but every one I've ever tried just
sounds like crap to my ears, and the hats were no exception. I don't
understand what people see in the Constantinople line; maybe it's the
"mystique". I'd encourage you to try them first though; I'm not a fan of
"dark" hi-hats and you may find that your tastes are completely opposite
of mine.
I've been on the search for a second set of hi-hats and I've found very
few that I like. I have a set of 14" Sabian AAX Stage Hats that I love,
and I REALLY love the sound of the HHX Evolution crashes, so when I got a
chance to try both HHX Stage Hats and HHX Groove Hats I assumed I'd be in
love with either and have a hard time choosing. Meh; I didn't like either
one! Then I tried a set of 14" Zildjian A Custom Mastersounds and they
blew me away; some of the best sounding hats I've ever heard! I'm
currently on the prowl for a set of those... :-)

It's funny how much of it depends on whar you're used to hearing. I've had
hats that sounded great in the store but just didn't blend the way I wanted
on stage, and I've had the opposite also.
For versatility though, the Zild Quick Beats I bought in '88 still work
great for about 95% of the stuff I play, and I just haven't heard anything
else in the shops that really catches my ear.
Sean

I had a set of Quickbeats for many years before I discovered the Sabian AAX
Stage Hats, and those sounded a lot better to me so I sent the Zildjians down
the road. I had a set of 13" A Zildjian Mastersounds (not the "Customs") for a
while that I used as alternates and they really didn't do much for me either,
so I sold those too. I'd kinda given up on Zildjians and really wasn't even
considering them in this recent quest until I heard the 14" A Custom
Mastersounds. But who knows, it's like you said; I could probably take a set
of those home and be totally underwhelmed after hearing them in a different
context. I guess there's nothing to do but have about a dozen different sets
of hi-hats and use the set that sounds the best at the time. :-)

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Tom

2011-03-21 06:51:12 UTC

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You fucking homo's and all your delusion over cymbals--just go find a set
that sounds good to your own ears--thats the trick--fuck grams and all the
other shit. You guys fuckin amaze me--like good sheeple you have to buy
anything new that some tattoo freak has shown in MD otr the like

Post by Steve Turner

Post by Sean Conolly

Post by Steve Turner

Personally, I'd get the K hats. I've tried hard to give the
Constantinople cymbals a fair shake, but every one I've ever tried just
sounds like crap to my ears, and the hats were no exception. I don't
understand what people see in the Constantinople line; maybe it's the
"mystique". I'd encourage you to try them first though; I'm not a fan of
"dark" hi-hats and you may find that your tastes are completely opposite
of mine.
I've been on the search for a second set of hi-hats and I've found very
few that I like. I have a set of 14" Sabian AAX Stage Hats that I love,
and I REALLY love the sound of the HHX Evolution crashes, so when I got a
chance to try both HHX Stage Hats and HHX Groove Hats I assumed I'd be in
love with either and have a hard time choosing. Meh; I didn't like either
one! Then I tried a set of 14" Zildjian A Custom Mastersounds and they
blew me away; some of the best sounding hats I've ever heard! I'm
currently on the prowl for a set of those... :-)

It's funny how much of it depends on whar you're used to hearing. I've had
hats that sounded great in the store but just didn't blend the way I wanted
on stage, and I've had the opposite also.
For versatility though, the Zild Quick Beats I bought in '88 still work
great for about 95% of the stuff I play, and I just haven't heard anything
else in the shops that really catches my ear.
Sean

I had a set of Quickbeats for many years before I discovered the Sabian
AAX Stage Hats, and those sounded a lot better to me so I sent the
Zildjians down the road. I had a set of 13" A Zildjian Mastersounds (not
the "Customs") for a while that I used as alternates and they really
didn't do much for me either, so I sold those too. I'd kinda given up on
Zildjians and really wasn't even considering them in this recent quest
until I heard the 14" A Custom Mastersounds. But who knows, it's like you
said; I could probably take a set of those home and be totally
underwhelmed after hearing them in a different context. I guess there's
nothing to do but have about a dozen different sets of hi-hats and use the
set that sounds the best at the time. :-)
--
See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad!
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/