Drumguru's first drum

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I need help tracing the history of my first snare drum, which was bought
at Metz music in Jackson, Ms. in 1966. It had no name on it, but when we
bought the matching bass and tom a year later the bass drum cymbal
holder mounting bracket said PEARL on it. No other logos anywhere. Those
drums are gone and I had been looking for one similar to it. These cheap
drums sounded good and were very durable for the time.
Yesterday at Fork's drum closet, I purchased a never been played, shiny
new Norma snare with case stand and sticks, which I think is made by the
same the same manufacturer of my "Pearl". What a find! Almost identical
to my first drum! This drum has been sitting in someone's attic for
decades. original remo soundmaster flesh hoop heads with nary a mark on
them. Same shell construction (three ply mahogany with maple reinforcing
rings), same slingerland type stick saver hoops, same Gretsch copy lugs
and the EXACT same funky blue sparkle covering. What is different is the
throwoff (p-85 copy) and the butt plate. The ones on mine were
slingerland copies.
This is all sentimental stuff, I know (My mother saved my first drum, it
was rotting, took it to be repaired , they lost it, where's my teddy
bear?), but, I'm a an old softy!. (Tommy Winkler lost it!!!) The Norma
sounds great, exactly like my first drum. I need help tracing down the
history of these drums since I believe them to be of the same
manufacture. Did not Pearl make drums for department stores and small
music stores before they became a "brand name, I would be interested in
the rest of a Norma or similar blue sparkle kit in good shape if anybody
has one. I'll sleep all warm and fuzzy at night.
Thanks, George

George,
I've been waiting patiently for 15 years for this to go away. IF you brought in a drum for repair, you would have dealt with Jimmy Heap to check in it for repair and you would have been given a repair ticket with a number on it. I have never worked on/restored any drums that were not a name brand. If Jimmy took it in and I refused to work on it, Jimmy never got it back to you. I never worked on department store/ten cent store drums. They were like toys. Yes, cheap and yes, could be sentimental to someone. When I first read this post, I thought that since you used to work for me at the drum shop, and you were fired, that was the reason you posted this. Thanks, George I hope someday you will take this down, I really give it no power or validity. Just wanted to set the record straight. If you only take down my reply, so be it.


Tommy Winkler

[-MIKE-]

I need help tracing the history of my first snare drum, which was
bought at Metz music in Jackson, Ms. in 1966. It had no name on
it, but when we bought the matching bass and tom a year later the
bass drum cymbal holder mounting bracket said PEARL on it. No
other logos anywhere. Those drums are gone and I had been looking
for one similar to it. These cheap drums sounded good and were very
durable for the time.
Yesterday at Fork's drum closet, I purchased a never been played,
shiny new Norma snare with case stand and sticks, which I think is
made by the same the same manufacturer of my "Pearl". What a find!
Almost identical to my first drum! This drum has been sitting in
someone's attic for decades. original remo soundmaster flesh hoop
heads with nary a mark on them. Same shell construction (three ply
mahogany with maple reinforcing rings), same slingerland type
stick saver hoops, same Gretsch copy lugs and the EXACT same funky
blue sparkle covering. What is different is the throwoff (p-85
copy) and the butt plate. The ones on mine were slingerland
copies.
This is all sentimental stuff, I know (My mother saved my first
drum, it was rotting, took it to be repaired , they lost it,
where's my teddy bear?), but, I'm a an old softy!. (Tommy Winkler
lost it!!!) The Norma sounds great, exactly like my first drum. I
need help tracing down the history of these drums since I believe
them to be of the same manufacture. Did not Pearl make drums for
department stores and small music stores before they became a
"brand name, I would be interested in the rest of a Norma or
similar blue sparkle kit in good shape if anybody has one. I'll
sleep all warm and fuzzy at night.
Thanks, George

George, I've been waiting patiently for 15 years for this to go
away. IF you brought in a drum for repair, you would have dealt with
Jimmy Heap to check in it for repair and you would have been given a
repair ticket with a number on it. I have never worked on/restored
any drums that were not a name brand. If Jimmy took it in and I
refused to work on it, Jimmy never got it back to you. I never
worked on department store/ten cent store drums. They were like
toys. Yes, cheap and yes, could be sentimental to someone. When I
first read this post, I thought that since you used to work for me at
the drum shop, and you were fired, that was the reason you posted
this. Thanks, George I hope someday you will take this down, I
really give it no power or validity. Just wanted to set the record
straight. If you only take down my reply, so be it.
Tommy Winkler

Talk about picking at old scabs! :-)

Two things, Tommy. First, there is no taking a post down on Usenet.
It's like sex tape, once it's out there, there's no way to undo it.
This isn't google groups or whatever help forum you're reading this on.
Those forums just mirror Usenet and Usenet is forever. Even if one of
the funneling forums "blocked" a post by filtering it, it's still on the
original Usenet server.

Secondly, I don't think you have anything to worry about, since Usenet
and this group in particular are for all intents and purposes, dead.
Unfortunately, you are solely responsible for giving a 15 year old, dead
in the water post new life. You resurrected your own slander!
Congrats!

Just yanking your chain, man. But seriously, this place is dead. Can't
you smell the mold? :-D

[Steve Turner]

Post by -MIKE-

I need help tracing the history of my first snare drum, which was
bought at Metz music in Jackson, Ms. in 1966. It had no name on
it, but when we bought the matching bass and tom a year later the
bass drum cymbal holder mounting bracket said PEARL on it. No
other logos anywhere. Those drums are gone and I had been looking
for one similar to it. These cheap drums sounded good and were very
durable for the time.
Yesterday at Fork's drum closet, I purchased a never been played,
shiny new Norma snare with case stand and sticks, which I think is
made by the same the same manufacturer of my "Pearl". What a find!
Almost identical to my first drum! This drum has been sitting in
someone's attic for decades. original remo soundmaster flesh hoop
heads with nary a mark on them. Same shell construction (three ply
mahogany with maple reinforcing rings), same slingerland type
stick saver hoops, same Gretsch copy lugs and the EXACT same funky
blue sparkle covering. What is different is the throwoff (p-85
copy) and the butt plate. The ones on mine were slingerland
copies.
This is all sentimental stuff, I know (My mother saved my first
drum, it was rotting, took it to be repaired , they lost it,
where's my teddy bear?), but, I'm a an old softy!. (Tommy Winkler
lost it!!!) The Norma sounds great, exactly like my first drum. I
need help tracing down the history of these drums since I believe
them to be of the same manufacture. Did not Pearl make drums for
department stores and small music stores before they became a
"brand name, I would be interested in the rest of a Norma or
similar blue sparkle kit in good shape if anybody has one. I'll
sleep all warm and fuzzy at night.
Thanks, George

George, I've been waiting patiently for 15 years for this to go
away. IF you brought in a drum for repair, you would have dealt with
Jimmy Heap to check in it for repair and you would have been given a
repair ticket with a number on it. I have never worked on/restored
any drums that were not a name brand. If Jimmy took it in and I
refused to work on it, Jimmy never got it back to you. I never
worked on department store/ten cent store drums. They were like
toys. Yes, cheap and yes, could be sentimental to someone. When I
first read this post, I thought that since you used to work for me at
the drum shop, and you were fired, that was the reason you posted
this. Thanks, George I hope someday you will take this down, I
really give it no power or validity. Just wanted to set the record
straight. If you only take down my reply, so be it.
Tommy Winkler

Talk about picking at old scabs! :-)
Two things, Tommy. First, there is no taking a post down on Usenet.
It's like sex tape, once it's out there, there's no way to undo it.
This isn't google groups or whatever help forum you're reading this on.
Those forums just mirror Usenet and Usenet is forever. Even if one of
the funneling forums "blocked" a post by filtering it, it's still on the
original Usenet server.
Secondly, I don't think you have anything to worry about, since Usenet
and this group in particular are for all intents and purposes, dead.
Unfortunately, you are solely responsible for giving a 15 year old, dead
in the water post new life. You resurrected your own slander!
Congrats!
Just yanking your chain, man. But seriously, this place is dead. Can't
you smell the mold? :-D