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Hearing protection........
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Mike
2009-05-01 15:01:48 UTC
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Use it!!!! I went to the audiologist a few weeks ago and I recieved
some bad news. First off they wanted to set me up with a hearing aid
for my right ear(Darn guitarists) and I lost 25% in my left ear in the
higher frequencies. Lost about 60% in the right ear. So looks like I
cannot do my own mixing on my original material. Anyways take car of
your ears. $200.00 for a pair of custom fitted in ear monitors.
$200.00 is a small price to pay to protect your hearing. I wish I
would have done this decades ago.





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Mike
Sam S
2009-05-01 20:44:36 UTC
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Post by Mike
Use it!!!! I went to the audiologist a few weeks ago and I recieved
some bad news. First off they wanted to set me up with a hearing aid
for my right ear(Darn guitarists) and I lost 25% in my left ear in the
higher frequencies. Lost about 60% in the right ear. So looks like I
cannot do my own mixing on my original material. Anyways take car of
your ears. $200.00 for a pair of custom fitted in ear monitors.
$200.00 is a small price to pay to protect your hearing. I wish I
would have done this decades ago.
Amen brother. I learned 20 years ago that I had some high frequency loss
and started using plugs. Now I usen IEMs and will never go back.

Listen and learn younger guys. You think "who cares what happens in 20
years, but in 5 years you'll end up going "Huh, what, come again?" like a 70
year old dude.

Sam S.
John
2009-05-02 23:02:09 UTC
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Post by Sam S
Post by Mike
Use it!!!! I went to the audiologist a few weeks ago and I recieved
some bad news. First off they wanted to set me up with a hearing aid
for my right ear(Darn guitarists) and I lost 25% in my left ear in the
higher frequencies. Lost about 60% in the right ear. So looks like I
cannot do my own mixing on my original material. Anyways take car of
your ears. $200.00 for a pair of custom fitted in ear monitors.
$200.00 is a small price to pay to protect your hearing. I wish I
would have done this decades ago.
Amen brother. I learned 20 years ago that I had some high frequency loss
and started using plugs. Now I usen IEMs and will never go back.
Listen and learn younger guys. You think "who cares what happens in 20
years, but in 5 years you'll end up going "Huh, what, come again?" like a
70 year old dude.
Sam S.
My problerm has been I have difficulty hearing if there is any background
noise present. It started in high school playing on the drumline when
louder=better.
I use regular earbuds and it cuts the noise enough to prevent further damage
and also allows you to hear everything that's going on, you just cant have
'em too loud.
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John
Sam S
2009-05-03 19:58:30 UTC
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Post by John
Post by Sam S
Post by Mike
Use it!!!! I went to the audiologist a few weeks ago and I recieved
some bad news. First off they wanted to set me up with a hearing aid
for my right ear(Darn guitarists) and I lost 25% in my left ear in the
higher frequencies. Lost about 60% in the right ear. So looks like I
cannot do my own mixing on my original material. Anyways take car of
your ears. $200.00 for a pair of custom fitted in ear monitors.
$200.00 is a small price to pay to protect your hearing. I wish I
would have done this decades ago.
Amen brother. I learned 20 years ago that I had some high frequency loss
and started using plugs. Now I usen IEMs and will never go back.
Listen and learn younger guys. You think "who cares what happens in 20
years, but in 5 years you'll end up going "Huh, what, come again?" like a
70 year old dude.
Sam S.
My problerm has been I have difficulty hearing if there is any background
noise present. It started in high school playing on the drumline when
louder=better.
I use regular earbuds and it cuts the noise enough to prevent further
damage and also allows you to hear everything that's going on, you just
cant have 'em too loud.
That's typical with most hearing loss.

Regular earbuds don't reduce ambient levels enough. Get some real IEMs.
Google Westone. Great sound and reasonable prices with or without getting
ear molds done.

Also, make sure you have a hard and fast limiter in your rig otherwise you
could go quite deaf from a single feedback squeal.

Sam S.
Perry Justus
2009-05-07 06:32:56 UTC
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Post by Sam S
Also, make sure you have a hard and fast limiter in your rig otherwise you
could go quite deaf from a single feedback squeal.
Sam S.
Oh, that sounds great. I think I'll just go with earplugs and
monitors, thanks.

Perry
Pete Pemberton
2009-05-07 13:57:14 UTC
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On 2009-05-07 02:32:56 -0400, Perry Justus
Post by Perry Justus
Post by Sam S
Also, make sure you have a hard and fast limiter in your rig otherwise you
could go quite deaf from a single feedback squeal.
Sam S.
Oh, that sounds great. I think I'll just go with earplugs and
monitors, thanks.
Perry
Sam always like to scare the kids...

All belt packs have one built in. Use a beltpack and you will be fine.
I use the Shure P6HW hardwired rig, and I love it.

Pete
Sam S
2009-05-07 15:47:21 UTC
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Post by Pete Pemberton
Post by Perry Justus
Post by Sam S
Also, make sure you have a hard and fast limiter in your rig otherwise you
could go quite deaf from a single feedback squeal.
Sam S.
Oh, that sounds great. I think I'll just go with earplugs and
monitors, thanks.
Perry
Sam always like to scare the kids...
All belt packs have one built in. Use a beltpack and you will be fine. I
use the Shure P6HW hardwired rig, and I love it.
Get off my lawn or I'll get my gun!

Pete's right. Just get a real IEM system. The Shure systems have built in
limiting. But, you should be scared if you are using a mixer and a
headphone output.

Sam S.
Pete Pemberton
2009-05-08 03:38:17 UTC
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Post by Sam S
Post by Pete Pemberton
On 2009-05-07 02:32:56 -0400, Perry Justus
Post by Perry Justus
Post by Sam S
Also, make sure you have a hard and fast limiter in your rig otherwise you
could go quite deaf from a single feedback squeal.
Sam S.
Oh, that sounds great. I think I'll just go with earplugs and
monitors, thanks.
Perry
Sam always like to scare the kids...
All belt packs have one built in. Use a beltpack and you will be fine.
I use the Shure P6HW hardwired rig, and I love it.
Get off my lawn or I'll get my gun!
Pete's right. Just get a real IEM system. The Shure systems have
built in limiting. But, you should be scared if you are using a mixer
and a headphone output.
Sam S.
Petrified. Ear drums.

PP
Chris Milillo
2009-05-07 19:09:34 UTC
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Post by Pete Pemberton
Post by Perry Justus
Post by Sam S
Also, make sure you have a hard and fast limiter in your rig otherwise you
could go quite deaf from a single feedback squeal.
Sam S.
Oh, that sounds great. I think I'll just go with earplugs and
monitors, thanks.
Perry
Sam always like to scare the kids...
All belt packs have one built in. Use a beltpack and you will be fine. I
use the Shure P6HW hardwired rig, and I love it.
Pete
That's the one I use. Never had a problem with it.

CM
Pete Pemberton
2009-05-08 03:39:36 UTC
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Post by Chris Milillo
Post by Pete Pemberton
Post by Perry Justus
Post by Sam S
Also, make sure you have a hard and fast limiter in your rig otherwise you
could go quite deaf from a single feedback squeal.
Sam S.
Oh, that sounds great. I think I'll just go with earplugs and
monitors, thanks.
Perry
Sam always like to scare the kids...
All belt packs have one built in. Use a beltpack and you will be fine. I
use the Shure P6HW hardwired rig, and I love it.
Pete
That's the one I use. Never had a problem with it.
CM
I had the cable go, and the unit was immersed in beer, Shures flat rate
repair is awesome, replaced the cable, all is good.

PP
JWald
2009-05-08 20:51:00 UTC
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Post by Pete Pemberton
I had the cable go, and the unit was immersed in beer, Shures flat rate
repair is awesome, replaced the cable, all is good.
PP
I've always had great support from Shure. This time, however, I've had to
wait almost a month for just an exchange on my E1's.

Chris Milillo
2009-05-07 19:10:43 UTC
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Post by Perry Justus
Post by Sam S
Also, make sure you have a hard and fast limiter in your rig otherwise you
could go quite deaf from a single feedback squeal.
Sam S.
Oh, that sounds great. I think I'll just go with earplugs and
monitors, thanks.
Perry
I've been using in-ears for at least 5 years now, and have never once had a
feedback squeal.

CM
Sam S
2009-05-08 02:00:34 UTC
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Post by Chris Milillo
Post by Perry Justus
Post by Sam S
Also, make sure you have a hard and fast limiter in your rig otherwise you
could go quite deaf from a single feedback squeal.
Sam S.
Oh, that sounds great. I think I'll just go with earplugs and
monitors, thanks.
Perry
I've been using in-ears for at least 5 years now, and have never once had
a feedback squeal.
If the whole band is IEM then it wouldn't happen. If not, it all depends
whether your front guys or soundman does something stupid. If the monitor
side is running hot, or somebody cups a mic or stuffs it into a monitor, it
will squeal.

Sam S.
Pete Pemberton
2009-05-08 03:40:02 UTC
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Post by Chris Milillo
Post by Perry Justus
Post by Sam S
Also, make sure you have a hard and fast limiter in your rig otherwise you
could go quite deaf from a single feedback squeal.
Sam S.
Oh, that sounds great. I think I'll just go with earplugs and
monitors, thanks.
Perry
I've been using in-ears for at least 5 years now, and have never once had a
feedback squeal.
CM
I have heard a couple but none got me.

PP
Chris Whealy
2009-05-05 09:18:25 UTC
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Post by Sam S
Amen brother. I learned 20 years ago that I had some high frequency
loss and started using plugs. Now I usen IEMs and will never go back.
Listen and learn younger guys. You think "who cares what happens in
20 years, but in 5 years you'll end up going "Huh, what, come again?"
like a 70 year old dude.
Sam S.
Ehhhh? Speak up, I can't hear you.... :-P

Only kidding, I always use ear plugs or IEMs.

*Notice to all young drummers*
If you kids are as smart as you think you are, then learn from other
people's mistakes and avoid making them yourself

Chris W
--
The voice of ignorance speaks loud and long,
But the words of the wise are quiet and few.
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c***@yahoo.it
2009-05-05 15:16:21 UTC
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Worst feeling occurs to me, I've been playing the drums for over 20
years, always taking really care of my ear protection, always advicing
others to do the same.

went a few weeks ago to an appearently "not dangerous" concert (a free
duo, sax-drums, normally playing acoustic) but the guys in the hall
decided to amplify at max the sound, and it just took ONE MINUTE
without protection to get some (I hope not permanent) damanges.
been a month now, and in perfect silence my background noise is really
high, a sort of bbbbbzzzzzzzzzz
Have a visit with a doctor scheduled for...tomorrow.

Really worried to get towards bad news, really pi**ed off with these
mu**erfu**ers with no clue on how to treat sound properly.

CL
Todd H
2009-05-05 15:52:57 UTC
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Post by Chris Whealy
Post by Sam S
Amen brother. I learned 20 years ago that I had some high frequency
loss and started using plugs. Now I usen IEMs and will never go back.
Listen and learn younger guys. You think "who cares what happens in
20 years, but in 5 years you'll end up going "Huh, what, come
again?" like a 70 year old dude.
Sam S.
Ehhhh? Speak up, I can't hear you.... :-P
Only kidding, I always use ear plugs or IEMs.
*Notice to all young drummers*
If you kids are as smart as you think you are, then learn from other
people's mistakes and avoid making them yourself
Agreed.

It's time to trot out my custom musicians earplug page for those
interested in a great use of $160 bucks:

http://toddh.net/music/ear/


Best Regards,
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Todd H toddh.net myspace.com/bmiawmb
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